Bug#727708: systemd and upstart, a view from a daemon upstream

2013-12-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > For comparison purposes, the *total* burden, from my upstream > perspective, of the two options was: > * systemd: 14 lines (8 lines of code, 6 lines of build system) > * upstart: 12 lines (6 lines of code, 6 lines of documentation) > Since upstart synchronization required

Bug#727708: systemd and upstart, a view from a daemon upstream

2013-12-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > So overall my conclusions at this level are: > * socket activation is an attractive implementation target for an >upstream daemon author. > * upstart's SIGSTOP protocol is an attractive implementation target >for an upstream daemon author. > * systemd's readine

Bug#727708: systemd and upstart, a view from a daemon upstream

2013-12-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Firstly: a warning note. Throughout this exercise I have been persistently typing "upstart" when I mean "userv" and "userv" when I mean "upstart". If something I say make no sense, please try reading it the other way :-). (At least it gave me some extra bugs to experience debugging...) I have s