Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi Russ, Le jeudi 27 mars 2014 à 18:47 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > I note that some important aspect of the XDG specification are not > > included. While it is not necessarily a requirement for policy > > inclusion, it could be helpful to document the .menu files used by > > desktop enviro

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > So in the spirit of going forward, I would suggest to restrict ourself > to documenting the FreeDesktop files. > I join a patch which is essentially Charles patch without the demotion > of the Debian menu system. Separate from the question of how to handle the existence

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:31:59AM +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > This is just one mail among other in favor of keeping the section about the > Debian menu system in the policy document, which have been overlooked. Hello Bill, later in the discussion, in message #345, about the patch that w

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 04:53:57PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: > Hello Charles, > > On 02.02.2014 14:00, Charles Plessy wrote: > [...] > > I think that the absence of a feature in the Debian Policy is not a good > > justification for refusing a patch that is not invasive and does not require > >

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-02-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 10:00:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > We should assume people's good faith on both sides. Because a > counter-argument > to yours would be that "people will use the presence of the Debian menu in the > Debian policy as a justification to file serious bugs on packages a

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-02-02 Thread Markus Koschany
Hello Charles, On 02.02.2014 14:00, Charles Plessy wrote: [...] > I think that the absence of a feature in the Debian Policy is not a good > justification for refusing a patch that is not invasive and does not require > further attention. > > We should assume people's good faith on both sides. B

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-02-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 02:36:35PM +0100, Markus Koschany a écrit : > Charles Plessy wrote: > [...] > > I have read a lot of scepticism about the Debian menu in this thread, and no > > actual support for it. Perhaps I was trying to be too consensual and > > proposed > > an over-complicated soluti

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-01-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014, Markus Koschany wrote: > I wanted to clarify that there are also efforts to support both menu > systems and that the majority of games already integrate both. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Games/JessieReleaseGoal > > In my opinion the policy should at least mention the Debian m

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-01-25 Thread Markus Koschany
Charles Plessy wrote: [...] > I have read a lot of scepticism about the Debian menu in this thread, and no > actual support for it. Perhaps I was trying to be too consensual and proposed > an over-complicated solution while it is clear that the FreeDesktop system is > superior. Hello Charles, I

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems (was: Re: Bug#707851: Let's remove the Debian menu from the Debian Policy ?)

2014-01-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, there is an ongoing discussion about the documentation of menu systems on the debian-policy mailing list, which led to proposed changes and it was suggested to give them a better coverage. On part of the proposal is about the description of the FreeDesktop menu system and its integratio