Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2012-01-22 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/09/2012 09:46 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:33:18PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> I (personally) would be willing to accept the lists under the following >> conditions: >> >> Before the list is created I want an

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2012-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 09:49:46PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > aren't two a bit too much? My rationale for two: I don't think we want 1-man-band companies on the list. They do a wonderful service, but they are more suitable for consultants (that already have a list) than for larger companies th

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2012-01-09 Thread Alexander Wirt
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Monday, den 09. January 2012: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:33:18PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > I (personally) would be willing to accept the lists under the > > following conditions: > > > > Before the list is created I want an exact policy who is allowed to > >

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2012-01-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:33:18PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I (personally) would be willing to accept the lists under the > following conditions: > > Before the list is created I want an exact policy who is allowed to > get subscribed to this list. Here is a first draft of such a policy. F

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Wirt
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Montag, den 19. Dezember 2011: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 01:32:55PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > I've provided a tentative answer for this in my first mail, but I'm not > > > sure it's compatible with the way listmasters work. To bootstrap the > > > system, woul

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Wirt
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Montag, den 19. Dezember 2011: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:33:18PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > Ok I had a longer talk to Michael Meskes and I am now able to > > understand you (and his) position a little bit better. > > > > I (personally) would be willing to ac

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:57:41PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > 1) how is the non-openness of this request any different from the > >listmaster@lists.d.o mail alias (or many others that we have in many > >@*.debian.org domains, fwiw) that Cord has Cc:-ed? > > > >(Note: as I've ment

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:33:18PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Ok I had a longer talk to Michael Meskes and I am now able to > understand you (and his) position a little bit better. > > I (personally) would be willing to accept the lists under the > following conditions: Thanks. Before answeri

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-14 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 12/13/2011 03:33 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Ok I had a longer talk to Michael Meskes and I am now able to understand you > (and his) position a little bit better. What about adding a longer explanation to the bug report then? Especially why Debian should host a yet another closed list while w

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Michael Meskes) hast geschrieben: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 06:03:36PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > Technically we can. And at least for lists I sometimes have to (debugging > > and > > Sure, but that's different from the whole world reading all the emails. And of > course I trust

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 06:03:36PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Technically we can. And at least for lists I sometimes have to (debugging and Sure, but that's different from the whole world reading all the emails. And of course I trust you guys not to read all the emails or else I wouldn't use m

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Alexander Wirt
Michael Meskes schrieb am Dienstag, den 13. Dezember 2011: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 04:51:24PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > I hope we do not need to discuss the need for a private listmaster > > alias. People who want to discuss their privacy issues or other troubles > > with lists don't want

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 04:51:24PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > I hope we do not need to discuss the need for a private listmaster > alias. People who want to discuss their privacy issues or other troubles > with lists don't want to do that in public for sure. And we have similar > mail aliases wh

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 12/13/2011 04:13 PM, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:21:32AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> while I like the idea of the list, I do not like (even with your >> explanation) the idea of having a non-public list for discussing >> Debian-related stuff in private - one of the main

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:33:18PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Before the list is created I want an exact policy who is allowed to get > subscribed > to this list. Fine with me. That makes sense. > A better description of the list should be done that leads into a press > announcement that i

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:21:32AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > while I like the idea of the list, I do not like (even with your > explanation) the idea of having a non-public list for discussing > Debian-related stuff in private - one of the main priciples of Debian is > to be open and we should

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-13 Thread Alexander Wirt
Alexander Wirt schrieb am Sonntag, den 11. Dezember 2011: > Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Sunday, den 11. December 2011: > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:10:07PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > I was working on this bug and I detected the non openess part. And I > > > have to say that I strong

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-12 Thread Carsten Hey
* Stefano Zacchiroli [2011-11-26 13:01 +0100]: > Name: debian-compan...@lists.debian.org > > Description: > > Discussion about the needs of companies that contribute to, offer > commercial support for, or have other strategic interests in Debian > > Category: Miscellaneous Debian It would be g

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-12 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, On 11/26/2011 01:01 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Name: debian-compan...@lists.debian.org [..] > Description: > > Discussion about the needs of companies that contribute to, offer commercial > support for, or have other strategic interests in Debian > > Category: Miscellaneous Debian

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Sunday, den 11. December 2011: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:10:07PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > I was working on this bug and I detected the non openess part. And I > > have to say that I strongly disagree in making this list non-public. > > > > Am I the only on

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:10:07PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I was working on this bug and I detected the non openess part. And I > have to say that I strongly disagree in making this list non-public. > > Am I the only one that don't likes this? Thanks for working on this bug report and for

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-11 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Alexander Wirt) hast geschrieben: > I was working on this bug and I detected the non openess part. And I have to > say that I strongly disagree in making this list non-public. > > Am I the only one that don't likes this? I second this opinion. Debian is about openess, and so we have

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Saturday, den 26. November 2011: > Package: lists.debian.org > Severity: wishlist > > Name: debian-compan...@lists.debian.org > > Rationale: > > I've been working in federating companies that have an interest in > supporting > Debian in various ways. The kind

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-12-09 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 01:01:34PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Package: lists.debian.org > Severity: wishlist > > Name: debian-compan...@lists.debian.org Just in case is needed, I hereby second the creation of this new mailing list. Best regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#650082: new mailing list: debian-companies

2011-11-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: lists.debian.org Severity: wishlist Name: debian-compan...@lists.debian.org Rationale: I've been working in federating companies that have an interest in supporting Debian in various ways. The kind of support here varies from stuff already partially covered by the Debian partners