On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:51:38AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> At this point, I would be fully in favor of anyone who has the time to
> finish applying whatever patches Steve wanted applied that have consensus
> and then uploading 3.9.3 with a request to debian-www that it be linked
> into the web
Lars Wirzenius writes:
> How many more months will it take to put DEP5 on the policy web pages?
> Been waiting that for half a year now... I don't think "the policy
> process" is working at all right now.
Well, no, I would tend to agree that it's not really working. However,
that's because of l
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:37:32AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 05:24:02PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > Bug 609160 is fixed in revision 3.9.2.0 already.
>
> If you want to follow particular rules, that's fine, but stop assuming
> other people are bound by them. Your r
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 05:24:02PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Bug 609160 is fixed in revision 3.9.2.0 already.
No, that revision contained an old, insufficient version of DEP5, which
needed fixing, so using the same bug was entirely appropriate. It
may conflict with your arbitrary rules for de
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:58AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Dear Policy team and WWW team,
>
> Here are two patches against the debian-policy package, in order to prepare
> the
> distribution of our specification of a machine-readable format for
> debian/copyright, drafted as Debian Enhance
Dear Policy team and WWW team,
Here are two patches against the debian-policy package, in order to prepare the
distribution of our specification of a machine-readable format for
debian/copyright, drafted as Debian Enhancement Proposal number 5 (DEP 5) at
the following URL:
http://www.debian.org/d
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:38:07AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I do think it would be better to forego any changes to DEP5, unless
> there's actual problems going on. However, if the policy team wants
> to take over edits for now, I'm happy about that, and willing to
> declare DEP5 be ACCEPTED.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:57:56PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> I am not making insinuations.
Sorry, Charles, I was out of line, and my reaction was too strong.
I do think it would be better to forego any changes to DEP5, unless
there's actual problems going on. However, if the po
Le Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:56:54PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:24:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > I do not know how to write this diplomatically, and my request to have my
> > patch
> > applied was a clumsy way to re-open the discussion without mentionning th
Hi,
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> After the policy team takes over maintenance of the DEP5 spec,
> you can use the policy process to suggest changes to it.
The DEP5 spec is already in the policy repo. Is there any reason not
to move to that way of working now (which does not imply anything
about when
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:24:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I do not know how to write this diplomatically, and my request to have my
> patch
> applied was a clumsy way to re-open the discussion without mentionning the
> above email, but if 1) the only changes before the DEP is accepted are
Le Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 07:42:23PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:30:34PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:41:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > given that DEP 5 is still in the CANDIDATE state, and given that the
> > > change is
> > >
Steve Langasek wrote:
> I think there are significant language
> bugs in the current draft that should be fixed before this is ready to be
> adopted as a standard.
Could you list some?
Thanks,
Jonathan
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:30:34PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:41:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > given that DEP 5 is still in the CANDIDATE state, and given that the change
> > is
> > not normative, I was wondering if the patch I sent in November 2011,
> > rep
Lars Wirzenius writes:
> Policy team, is there any reason to not do that? As far as I can see the
> only changes needed are to provide a stable URL (with embedded version
> number), and changing the spec to use that URL in the Format: header.
No reason whatsoever, and it would have happened alre
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:41:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> given that DEP 5 is still in the CANDIDATE state, and given that the change is
> not normative, I was wondering if the patch I sent in November 2011,
> reproduced
> below for your convenience, could be applied in the end.
My opinio
Le Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 06:46:21AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> On ke, 2011-04-13 at 10:49 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Le Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> > >
> > > Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion.
> > >
> > > * remove drivers f
On ke, 2011-04-13 at 10:49 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> > reopen 609160
> > thanks
> >
> > Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion.
> >
> > * remove drivers from abstract (we're mentioned in acks, which is
>
Le Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> reopen 609160
> thanks
>
> Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion.
>
> * remove drivers from abstract (we're mentioned in acks, which is
> enough)
> * a couple of missing spaces from markup
> * removal of usel
reopen 609160
thanks
Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion.
* remove drivers from abstract (we're mentioned in acks, which is
enough)
* a couple of missing spaces from markup
* removal of useless appendix (this was in dep svn already, so better do
it in the version in policy t
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 01:00:22AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Charles Plessy writes:
>
> > Pong :)
>
> > Here is DEP-5 in DocBook format, and the changes needed to the
> > debian-policy package to build it in HTML and text formats. I have
> > followed the same way as the Debconf spec. In the l
Russ Allbery writes:
> My inclination is to include it in the next debian-policy package
> upload, but (since that's happening tomorrow, not giving people much
> time), remove the reference to it in Policy proper for right now and not
> make a big deal out of the fact that it's there.
That refer
Charles Plessy writes:
> Pong :)
> Here is DEP-5 in DocBook format, and the changes needed to the
> debian-policy package to build it in HTML and text formats. I have
> followed the same way as the Debconf spec. In the long term, there is
> probably a smarter way to do, but for the moment, it wi
Jonathan Nieder writes:
> I can try this weekend to write some makefile rules to build from
> docbook XML.
This should already be there to handle the debconf spec, which is already
in Policy and already written in Docbook.
> IMHO it would not be worth it to couple this with converting policy.sg
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On ke, 2011-03-02 at 03:33 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> If you mean that there is no need to update to an intermediate
>> version, makes sense to me. Anyway, getting any version ready to
>> include in the VCS (on a branch) seems worthwhile to me, and after
>> that, upd
On ke, 2011-03-02 at 03:33 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> > Updating the patch should, I think, be done
> > only after the draft is final and policy is ready to include it in the
> > package (even if only in the policy VCS repository).
>
> If you mean that there is no need to update to an interme
Hi,
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Updating the patch should, I think, be done
> only after the draft is final and policy is ready to include it in the
> package (even if only in the policy VCS repository).
If you mean that there is no need to update to an intermediate
version, makes sense to me. Anyw
On ti, 2011-03-01 at 19:13 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Ping :). I would be interested in either a copy in debiandoc format
> or rules in the Makefile to build from docbook format. If interested
> in the latter, please coordinate work using Bug#175064.
I note that since I submitted the bug (w
Le Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 07:13:57PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder a écrit :
>
> Ping :). I would be interested in either a copy in debiandoc format
> or rules in the Makefile to build from docbook format. If interested
> in the latter, please coordinate work using Bug#175064.
Dear Jonathan,
I have a v
user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org
severity 609160 wishlist
usertags 609160 + packaging
quit
Hi Charles,
Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:49:17PM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
>> Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the
>> debian-policy package.
[...]
Charles Plessy writes:
> Le Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:49:17PM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
>> Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the
>> debian-policy package. I have attempted to add it to the Makefile and
>> debian/rules file, but not sure if I did it in a good way.
>> Th
Le Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:49:17PM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
>
> Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the
> debian-policy package. I have attempted to add it to the Makefile and
> debian/rules file, but not sure if I did it in a good way.
>
> The actual spec text is iden
Package: debian-policy
Version: n/a
Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the
debian-policy package. I have attempted to add it to the Makefile and
debian/rules file, but not sure if I did it in a good way.
The actual spec text is identical to the one on the DEP site
(http://de
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