Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 06:58:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > > please clarify what the right behaviour should be and how failing to > > install without a local db should be treated. Thanks. > > I agree with jcristau; I think it's reasonable to have database servers b

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-19 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 19/09/2010 04:39, Russ Allbery wrote: > Andrew McMillan writes: > >> In general I think providing an "opt out" option which does nothing and >> successfully configures the package is not harmful. While automation i >> nice, our own imagination can be limited in understanding the full range >>

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 19. September 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > I do think it's okay to require that one answer a debconf prompt saying > "no, I really don't want any configuration" in order to get that opt-out > behavior, though, so I'm not sure that quite addresses Holger's problem. if it would be a

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrew McMillan writes: > In general I think providing an "opt out" option which does nothing and > successfully configures the package is not harmful. While automation i > nice, our own imagination can be limited in understanding the full range > of possibilities and we should be careful not to

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-06 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 18:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > > please clarify what the right behaviour should be and how failing to > > install without a local db should be treated. Thanks. > > I agree with jcristau; I think it's reasonable to have database servers be > in

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-05 Thread sean finney
hi russ, On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 06:58:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > It's definitely worth talking about if the draft database policy says > something else, as it appears to. My rationale is that the package setup having re-read it yesterday i don't think that's the intention for it to say s

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Holger Levsen writes: > please clarify what the right behaviour should be and how failing to > install without a local db should be treated. Thanks. I agree with jcristau; I think it's reasonable to have database servers be in Recommends, to have postinst prompt for what database to use, and if

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-05 Thread Ben Finney
sean finney writes: > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 05:02:06PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > please clarify what the right behaviour should be and how failing to > > install without a local db should be treated. Thanks. > > http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/dbapp-policy.html/ch-dbapps.html#s-i

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-05 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 05:02:06PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > package: debian-policy > x-debbugs-cc: debian-rele...@lists.debian.org > > Hi, > > please clarify what the right behaviour should be and how failing to install > without a local db should be treated. Thanks. http://people.debian.o

Bug#595652: db packages failing to install...

2010-09-05 Thread Holger Levsen
package: debian-policy x-debbugs-cc: debian-rele...@lists.debian.org Hi, please clarify what the right behaviour should be and how failing to install without a local db should be treated. Thanks. context: bugs such as #595594 h01ger: fwiw i still think that if an app needs to talk to a db se