Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 15:00 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 02:47:56PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 09:35 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > This is a good start, but it doesn't specify *how* boot loader packages > > > are to be disabled. I think that th

Bug#594650: Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 22:37 -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: > On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:27:53 +0100, Ben Hutchings > wrote: > > - I filed a bug on elilo (#594650) > > I'll be traveling for the next week with limited net access and time. > If you want this attended to quickly, a suitable patch would be w

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 02:47:56PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 09:35 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > This is a good start, but it doesn't specify *how* boot loader packages > > are to be disabled. I think that this needs to be consistent across > > boot loaders. > > That wo

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 09:35 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 05:44:32AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Actually, what I want is a consistent way to disable bootloader > > > invocation for all bootloaders, without nece

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 05:44:32AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Actually, what I want is a consistent way to disable bootloader > > invocation for all bootloaders, without necessarily requiring the > > bootloader package not to be installe

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:27:53 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > - I filed a bug on elilo (#594650) I'll be traveling for the next week with limited net access and time. If you want this attended to quickly, a suitable patch would be welcomed. Bdale pgpOB9ZsAV4lz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 05:44 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] > OK, so something like this: > > "Boot loader packages must be installable on the filesystem in a > disabled state where they will not write to the boot sector or other > non-filesystem storage. While a boot loader is disabled, any ke

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:08:47PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > > > * Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:45:36PM > > > +0100]: > > > > If you insist on installing such a packa

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Prokop
(Removed [e]l...@packages.debian.org from Cc) * Colin Watson [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 04:55:28PM +0100]: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:08:47PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > > > * Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:45:36PM > > > +0100]:

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Prokop
* Stephen Powell [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 11:47:13AM -0400]: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:29:46 -0400 (EDT), Michael Prokop wrote: > > I'm aware of this, though I'd prefer a clean interface and not hacks. :) > > Especially since I'm not aware of a way how to chmod -x the files before > > installing the

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:08:47PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > > * Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:45:36PM > > +0100]: > > > If you insist on installing such a package in the live system then it > > > needs to support a safe confi

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:37:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Prokop wrote: > > , [ aptitude changelog lilo/unstable | head ] > | Get: Changelog of lilo > | lilo (1:22.8-8.2) unstable; urgency=high > | > | * Non-maintainer upload. > | * Add kernel and initramfs hook scripts to ensure lilo is reinstall

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:29:46 -0400 (EDT), Michael Prokop wrote: > > I'm aware of this, though I'd prefer a clean interface and not hacks. :) > > Especially since I'm not aware of a way how to chmod -x the files before > installing the packages that fail during installation then. ;) > I haven't

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Prokop
* Stephen Powell [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 11:29:47AM -0400]: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:08:47 -0400 (EDT), Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Report a bug on lilo; I suppose it should warn but still 'succeed' if > > /etc/lilo.conf is missing. elilo should do the same. This is my bug > > and I can fix it. :-)

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:08:47 -0400 (EDT), Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Report a bug on lilo; I suppose it should warn but still 'succeed' if > /etc/lilo.conf is missing. elilo should do the same. This is my bug > and I can fix it. :-) No idea about zipl but I doubt you care about > s390 live media.

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Prokop
* Stephen Powell [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 11:18:39AM -0400]: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:55:43 -0400 (EDT), Michael Prokop > wrote: > > Jepp. But isn't this (possibility for user configuration) exactly > > what Colin is requesting? > > I'm for example shipping lilo and grub with the live system (so th

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:55:43 -0400 (EDT), Michael Prokop wrote: > Jepp. But isn't this (possibility for user configuration) exactly > what Colin is requesting? > > I'm for example shipping lilo and grub with the live system (so the > binaries as well as its documentation is available to the user

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:55 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > * Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:45:36PM +0100]: [...] > > If you insist on installing such a package in the live system then it > > needs to support a safe configuration where it won't do anything until > > the user configures it t

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Prokop
* Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:45:36PM +0100]: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:24 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > > * Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:09:06PM > > +0100]: > > > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > Consider building a filesystem image inside a c

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 16:24 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > * Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:09:06PM +0100]: > > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > Consider building a filesystem image inside a chroot which one is about > > > to build into a live filesystem image

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Prokop
* Ben Hutchings [Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:09:06PM +0100]: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Consider building a filesystem image inside a chroot which one is about > > to build into a live filesystem image with mksquashfs or something. In > > the event that it contains f

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:54 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: [...] > Consider building a filesystem image inside a chroot which one is about > to build into a live filesystem image with mksquashfs or something. In > the event that it contains flash-kernel, then the flash-kernel hook > (once such a thing

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:45:44PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:25 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > In the case where one is building an image and part of the image build > > involves running update-initramfs, it would be useful to have a single > > guaranteed way to disable

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:25 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Package: initramfs-tools > Version: 0.98 > Severity: wishlist > User: ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com > Usertags: origin-ubuntu maverick > > In the case where one is building an image and part of the image build > involves running update-initr

Bug#594189: initramfs-tools: environment variable to disable run_bootloader

2010-08-24 Thread Colin Watson
Package: initramfs-tools Version: 0.98 Severity: wishlist User: ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Usertags: origin-ubuntu maverick In the case where one is building an image and part of the image build involves running update-initramfs, it would be useful to have a single guaranteed way to disable ins