Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-04 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 06:19:57PM -0600, David Farning wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:18:50PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:55 AM, J

Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 06:19:57PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:18:50PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Either way, while this may be a huge philosophical dif

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-04 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:18:50PM -0600, David Farning wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> >>> Do you mean some other package than my proposed honey-NN? >> >> No, I have come full circle to agree with

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:18:50PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do you mean some other package than my proposed honey-NN? No, I have come full circle to agree with the proposed honey-NN Ok. Either way, while this may be a huge philoso

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-04 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:34:12PM -0600, David Farning wrote: >> >> The difference is that they expect to be able to install bundles via >> install_activity_bundle.  From a technical POV the issue seems similar to >> how how Debian handles

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:34:12PM -0600, David Farning wrote: The difference is that they expect to be able to install bundles via install_activity_bundle. From a technical POV the issue seems similar to how how Debian handles mozilla add ons. There are instances where users will want the ab

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread David Farning
The difference is that they expect to be able to install bundles via install_activity_bundle. From a technical POV the issue seems similar to how how Debian handles mozilla add ons. There are instances where users will want the ability to use and install addons, without being limited by their und

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:51:49PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:24:45PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:58:34PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: My understanding was that Jonas believes that so

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:24:45PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:58:34PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> My understanding was that Jonas believes that software should be >>> deployed by the distro and not by

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 3. Januar 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > It does not make sense to me to add non-package dependencies to > sucrose-NN. It might make sense to maintain such in a separate > metapackage, e.g. honey-NN. /me suggest to build honey-NN from the sugar source package :) regards,

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:04:09PM -0600, David Farning wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:26:55PM -0600, dfarning wrote: > >> Ok, still learning the bug reporting sys

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:24:45PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:58:34PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: My understanding was that Jonas believes that software should be deployed by the distro and not by developers (by using mechanisms such as .xo bundles). From that POV suga

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:04:09PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:26:55PM -0600, dfarning wrote: Ok, still learning the bug reporting system. It seems pretty handy to: Open a debian VM with quem (when testing

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:58:34PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: My understanding was that Jonas believes that software should be deployed by the distro and not by developers (by using mechanisms such as .xo bundles). From that POV sugar-platform is not needed. I don't think it should be an either-

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:36, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:04:09PM -0600, David Farning wrote: > >> The problem is that because activity bundles (.xo) do not have the ability >> to declare dependencies, activity developers must be able to depend on a >> specific set package bei

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-03 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:04:09PM -0600, David Farning wrote: The problem is that because activity bundles (.xo) do not have the ability to declare dependencies, activity developers must be able to depend on a specific set package being available. I don't belive that this list of packages ha

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-02 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:26:55PM -0600, dfarning wrote: Is serious the correct category for this type of bug? Nope.  More info here: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities Read it. Also, please simply skip version numbe

Bug#563436: [Debian-olpc-devel] Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:26:55PM -0600, dfarning wrote: Is serious the correct category for this type of bug? Nope. More info here: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities Also, please simply skip version number rather than providing a bogus one like "lastest". But thanks for try

Bug#563436: sugar-0.88: sugar depends on python-numpy and python-pygames

2010-01-02 Thread dfarning
Package: sugar-0.88 Version: lastest Severity: important Is serious the correct category for this type of bug? Sugar activitity developers now depend on the availability of python-numpy python-pygames Several activities such as maze and memorize will not run without these dependancies -- Syst