Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-29 Thread sasha mal
If you are lazy to reproduce all problems that iceweasel has, close all bugs, not just this one. I've provided as much details as I possibly could. I'm not a wireshark expert to help more. Understand that. The bug has not been fixed. No clear explanation was provided of why the bug occurs. I'

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-29 Thread sasha mal
But I'll try the MTU hint as soon as I can, thank you for that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-29 Thread sasha mal
Actually, I've provided all information I could. I'm absolutely not into wireshark or other network tools of whatever kind, but, if you are lazy and unable to do that yourself, well, I might do that, but only starting in late July 2010. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@list

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:44:18AM -0400, sasha mal wrote: > > Pages optimized for IE6 are not necessarily rendered correctly on IE7 > > or IE8.. so much for Microsofts own "standards". > Man, you still don't get it. MS changed its standard. Standards do change > over time, that's normal. > > >>

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-29 Thread sasha mal
> Pages optimized for IE6 are not necessarily rendered correctly on IE7 > or IE8.. so much for Microsofts own "standards". Man, you still don't get it. MS changed its standard. Standards do change over time, that's normal. >> I can help with investigation of wireshark on debian from late July 20

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread Daniel Gibson
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:39 AM, sasha mal wrote: >> Repeating this nonsense doesn't make it true. > You are denying the evident. You have mentioned yourself that a lot of time > was invested to support IE. > Since the majority of pages supported IE, it just confirms what I'm saying: > people tr

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread sasha mal
> Repeating this nonsense doesn't make it true. You are denying the evident. You have mentioned yourself that a lot of time was invested to support IE. Since the majority of pages supported IE, it just confirms what I'm saying: people try to stick to the standard of IE. In a few cases even crash

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread Daniel Gibson
sasha mal schrieb: There the behavior of IE+Win is, in general, the world standard due to the major market share. Some behaviors (including bugs, no matter how you defined them) of IE+Win don't correspond to that of the other browsers. If some behavior doesn't change in IE+Win for a long perio

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:17:33AM -0400, sasha mal wrote: > It does, look into the acknowledgements of Safari: > "Netscape Communications Corporation ( SpiderMonkey, as used in DateMath.cpp > )..." Yeah, that has anything to do with networking. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-re

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread sasha mal
It does, look into the acknowledgements of Safari: "Netscape Communications Corporation ( SpiderMonkey, as used in DateMath.cpp )..." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:50:28AM -0400, sasha mal wrote: > There the behavior of IE+Win is, in general, the world standard due to the > major market share. Some behaviors (including bugs, no matter how you defined > them) of IE+Win don't correspond to that of the other browsers. If some > beha

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread sasha mal
There the behavior of IE+Win is, in general, the world standard due to the major market share. Some behaviors (including bugs, no matter how you defined them) of IE+Win don't correspond to that of the other browsers. If some behavior doesn't change in IE+Win for a long period of time (which we o

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:51:08PM -0400, sasha mal wrote: > It's not their page which is broken. Because they have the majority. The > reality is: if a page can be read by the IE, it's a good page. > It's the firefox which is broken. The reality is that a lot of pages are written with IE specifi

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-27 Thread sasha mal
It's not their page which is broken. Because they have the majority. The reality is: if a page can be read by the IE, it's a good page. It's the firefox which is broken. > I tried IE6 on Windows 2000 in VirtualBox and the page didn't load. So what? Windows 2000 is not distributed since 2005. Remn

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-27 Thread Daniel Gibson
sasha mal schrieb: Daniel, it's great that you are dealing with that. I've just now tried lynx, firefox, safari on Mac OS X 10.5.8 from the same network. With the result that - lynx 2.8.6rel.5 opens both research.microsoft.com and research.microsoft.com/en-us/people/thoare even when all cook

Bug#541658: problem not only in the network

2010-06-27 Thread sasha mal
Daniel, it's great that you are dealing with that. I've just now tried lynx, firefox, safari on Mac OS X 10.5.8 from the same network. With the result that - lynx 2.8.6rel.5 opens both research.microsoft.com and research.microsoft.com/en-us/people/thoare even when all cookies are accepted, an