Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2012-08-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 08:55:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > We should be consistent about terminology. Other than that nit, seconded. Seconded as well. This bug reminds me #683495 ("#!/usr/bin/perl" MUST or SHOULD?), which is also about "must" statements encapsulated in a "should" are

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2012-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > That last "if" seems like an odd and not too useful loophole. It would > be nicer for policy to clearly state that packages *should not* modify > configuration files owned by other packages directly, whether a tool for > indirectly modifying is provided or not. If such

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2012-08-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, In 2009, Colin Watson wrote: > /etc/kernel-img.conf is a weird case. To start with, it's initially > created by the installer (base-installer) and the update-grub line is > added by another part of the installer (grub-installer). Obviously the > installer can't own a configuration file perman

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Jun 18 2009, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:54:10PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: >> In message #36 [0] and #46 [1], he told me that we should either keep it >> as an symlink or just edit automatically /etc/kernel-img.conf >> /etc/kernel-img.conf is edited by grub-installe

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:54:10PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: > For example we grub/grub2 maintainers have the problem that some people > still have /sbin/update-grub in their /etc/kernel-img.conf. > grub-legacy has a wrapper to warn about this since etch, but we recently > got a bug report in gru

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-17 Thread Felix Zielcke
>There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether >it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files >(not 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. For example by me. For me it isn't clear. For example we grub/grub2 maintainers have the problem that some people still ha

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-17 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: so it seems that the "alternative" interpretation, is that "if there is a interface, then it must be used", but all that is wrapped in a "should", which is not as binding as a "must". While this section of policy could probably be c

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > so it seems that the "alternative" interpretation, is that "if there > is a interface, then it must be used", but all that is wrapped in a > "should", which is not as binding as a "must". While this section of policy could probably be clarified, violating

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Sune Vuorela writes: > To be honest, I also have a hard time seeing the issues, but after > participating two days in a row debating this with different people in > #debian-devel, I just thought that something must be unclear. I asked a bit, > and a specific "should" the primary blame. > >>

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 20:05:40 Russ Allbery wrote: > severity 533287 wishlist > thanks > > Sune Vuorela writes: > > There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about > > wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not > > 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. >

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Russ Allbery
severity 533287 wishlist thanks Sune Vuorela writes: > There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about > wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not > 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. > > My interpretation of policy is that you are only allowed to ed

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:01:38AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.1.0 > Severity: important > > > Hi > > There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether > it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files > (not 'conffiles') in

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: important Hi There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. My interpretation of policy is that you are only allowed to