Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-08 Thread Brian May
Bastian Blank wrote: >> (BTW, Brian, this discussion reminds me that I'd like to use alternatives >> for krb5.conf.5 so that krb5-doc and heimdal-doc don't need to conflict. >> > > Prdon, this is missuse of that mechanism. man already can do that. > How? Brian May -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Tautschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, if alternatives is the wrong approach, let's try an analytical approach: > > - heimdal-clients and krb5-user must not both be installed: Clearly, > conflicts: is indicated. Then both may provide kadmin. It will break > no system (they can'

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 07:19:44PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Using alternatives for kadmin is more problematic. > Which means that you need to find a consens and rename _both_ if none is > found. I certainly agree that's an even worse option. --

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Yeah, I'm reasonably sure that alternatives are wrong for kadmin. > Editor is intended to be used by a user. Kadmin is often used by > users but is also quite often used by scripts. > [...] Well, if alternatives is the wrong approach, let's try an analytical approach: - heimdal-clients and kr

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-08 Thread Sam Hartman
Yeah, I'm reasonably sure that alternatives are wrong for kadmin. Editor is intended to be used by a user. Kadmin is often used by users but is also quite often used by scripts. Editors also can all work with text files. It's basically not true that you can use a heimdal kadmin against an MIT re

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-08 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 07:19:44PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Using alternatives for kadmin is more problematic. Which means that you need to find a consens and rename _both_ if none is found. > (BTW, Brian, this discussion reminds me that I'd like to use alternatives > for krb5.conf.5 so that

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Tautschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Can I please have some input into this bug report? >> >> The report itself seems valid, ideally these packages shouldn't conflict. >> >> Solving this in such a way as not to break lots of stuff could be >> awkward though. >> >> Ideas? Adding alt

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Hello, > > Can I please have some input into this bug report? > > The report itself seems valid, ideally these packages shouldn't conflict. > > Solving this in such a way as not to break lots of stuff could be > awkward though. > > Ideas? > Are you guys really sure that alternatives are so mis

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user

2008-07-07 Thread Brian May
Hello, Can I please have some input into this bug report? The report itself seems valid, ideally these packages shouldn't conflict. Solving this in such a way as not to break lots of stuff could be awkward though. Ideas? Brian May -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user - please make kadmin co-installable

2008-07-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russ> Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The policy mandates that one (or, if no consensus is reached, >> both) programs needs to be renamed in such a case (see >> §10.1). But in this case the functionality and the

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user - please make kadmin co-installable

2008-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The policy mandates that one (or, if no consensus is reached, both) > programs needs to be renamed in such a case (see §10.1). But in this > case the functionality and the commandline interface should be similar > enough, both administers kerberos, to us

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user - please make kadmin co-installable

2008-05-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 06:22:00AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > One possible fix: move kadmin in its own package and install it as > > /usr/bin/kadmin-{heimdal,krb5}. > Renaming the kadmin binary is not something I'm willing to do. That would > break tons and tons of user software. > We could us

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user - please make kadmin co-installable

2008-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: heimdal-clients,krb5-user > Version: N/A > Severity: wishlist > > Both heimdal-clients and krb5-user provides kadmin but they are in no > way compatible. Please make them coinstallable. > > One possible fix: move kadmin in its own package and in

Bug#482528: heimdal-clients,krb5-user - please make kadmin co-installable

2008-05-23 Thread Bastian Blank
Package: heimdal-clients,krb5-user Version: N/A Severity: wishlist Both heimdal-clients and krb5-user provides kadmin but they are in no way compatible. Please make them coinstallable. One possible fix: move kadmin in its own package and install it as /usr/bin/kadmin-{heimdal,krb5}. Bastian --