Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-15 Thread Simon Josefsson
Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> Risking the opportunity to close this bug, could you try whether you can >> reproduce the problem using openSSL as well? You need to force it to >> send a servername extension: >> >> openssl s_client -

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-14 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: Risking the opportunity to close this bug, could you try whether you can reproduce the problem using openSSL as well? You need to force it to send a servername extension: openssl s_client -connect bluepages.ibm.com:636 -servername foo # openssl s_c

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-14 Thread Simon Josefsson
Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In other words, to talk with this server you need to: > > 1) Disable cert_type extension (-CERT-OPENPGP) > > 2) Disable server_name extension (--disable-extensions with gnutls-cli) > > 3) Disable TLS 1.1 > > I have no idea how to achieve 2) in openldap

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-14 Thread Simon Josefsson
Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> I was wrong, it doesn't work like that. GnuTLS doesn't send the >> server_name extension by default, the application needs to call >> gnutls_server_name_set explicitly to enable it. For gnutls-cli, yo

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-13 Thread Simon Josefsson
Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> gnutls-cli -p 636 bluepages.ibm.com -d 4711 --priority >> NORMAL:-VERS-TLS1.1:-VERS-TLS1.0 > > works Ok, that means SSL 3.0 works. >> No need to post logs if that works. You may need to transfer som

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-13 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: I was wrong, it doesn't work like that. GnuTLS doesn't send the server_name extension by default, the application needs to call gnutls_server_name_set explicitly to enable it. For gnutls-cli, you can use --disable-extensions to avoid sending the serv

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-13 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: gnutls-cli -p 636 bluepages.ibm.com -d 4711 --priority NORMAL:-VERS-TLS1.1:-VERS-TLS1.0 works No need to post logs if that works. You may need to transfer some application data to trigger the record padding problem though, so you might not see fa

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> However, maybe the problem is with some extension. Then maybe disabling >>> that extension should be sufficient, and you don't need to disable TLS >>> 1.0. >> >> Indeed, it'd be nice to drop just the problematic extension, if feasible > > I'm somewh

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Maybe it doesn't like TLS 1.1 _and_ doesn't like record padding. later: >> Reading your logs suggests this will not work, record padding is only >> effective after handshake is complete. >> >> Btw, could you also try this command: >> >> gnutls-cli -

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-12 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: At least I understand the three _other_ problems reported in this bug now... ;) Still better off than before Ok. The random success is interesting. I thought so as well - I wonder if the server (regional IP - I always see the same IP due to DNS

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> I believe we may be close to understanding this entire bug report now. > > Cool ;) At least I understand the three _other_ problems reported in this bug now... >> The remaining step is to check whethe

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-11 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Simon Josefsson wrote: I believe we may be close to understanding this entire bug report now. Cool ;) The remaining step is to check whether bluepages.ibm.com exhibits either one of the two last problems. However, the server isn't accessible on the Internet. Richard, c

Bug#466477: bluepages.ibm.com

2008-10-11 Thread Simon Josefsson
I believe we may be close to understanding this entire bug report now. For context, please review: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=466477 My conclusion is that there are three different problems discussed: The mail3.mclemente.net problem has been fixed in v2.4.0. It was a combi