Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Christian Perrier seconded this here:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=440420#100
>
> However, since later discussion indicated that we should drop the .UTF-8
> business, I think we can also drop it from the policy proposal. (Manual
retitle 440420 [AMENDMENT 11/02/2008] Manual page encoding
severity 440420 normal
thanks
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 12:29:35PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> --- orig/policy.sgml
> +++ mod/policy.sgml
> @@ -8521,6 +8521,37 @@
> be present in the future.
>
>
> +
> +
> +
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 12:29:35PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:37:48PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:28:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I propose that policy should standardise that we mov
(resending that mail that apparently never made it to its recipients)
Quoting Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Christian Perrier seconded this here:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=440420#100
>
> However, since later discussion indicated that we should drop the .UTF-8
Hi,
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 12:29:35 +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:37:48PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:28:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I propose that policy should standardise that we mo
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:37:48PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:28:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I propose that policy should standardise that we move to using UTF-8 as
> > > the source encoding for all manual pages sin
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:37:30AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm still open to whether new-world-order pages should go in
> > /usr/share/man/LL.UTF-8 or just /usr/share/man/LL. Pros for LL.UTF-8:
> >
> > * Non-compliant implementations (I'm guessing
(Colin CC'ed in case he's not subscribed to the bug or to the
debian-policy package PTS)
Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> This proposal and patch looks good to me, although I'd prefer to see a few
> more seconds before I queue it up for applying to Policy 3.7.4.
I can't really make t
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Right. Here's an update; I think I've captured most of the discussion in
> the thread so far. The following patch could in principle be applied
> now, given seconds. Wordsmithing welcome, as I'm aware that this is a
> rather dense recommendation; I'm also
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:28:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I propose that policy should standardise that we move to using UTF-8 as
> > the source encoding for all manual pages since it clearly makes sense to
> > do so. This will still need to be spe
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I propose that policy should standardise that we move to using UTF-8 as
> the source encoding for all manual pages since it clearly makes sense to
> do so. This will still need to be specified by each manual page (by
> means of the directory in which it i
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 01:35:48PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 02:04:32PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> > Is it save to use UTF-8 characters if a very similar character exists in
> > ASCII or can be expressed using groff macros? Think about the many
> > dashes which exist in
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 02:04:32PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 11:52:57AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Thanks. I hope that my comments above clarify some further confusion. I
> > would still appreciate concrete information and examples on why you
> > don't like the idea of
Hi Colin,
there is maybe one item which should be clarified.
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 11:52:57AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Thanks. I hope that my comments above clarify some further confusion. I
> would still appreciate concrete information and examples on why you
> don't like the idea of manua
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:55:03AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 05:38:10PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> >>I don't like the proposal ;-)
> >>It is not very POSIXly and to application specific.
> >
> >Of course it is application-specific;
Colin Watson wrote:
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 05:38:10PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
I don't like the proposal ;-)
It is not very POSIXly and to application specific.
Of course it is application-specific; /usr/share/man is
application-specific (i.e. specific to the
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 05:38:10PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >--- orig/policy.sgml
> >+++ mod/policy.sgml
> >@@ -8450,6 +8450,39 @@
> > be present in the future.
> >
> >
> >+
> >+
> >+ Manual pages that are installed under
> >+ /u
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 04:15:31PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:11:04PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I'm not sure how to word this in policy though; do you have any
> > suggestions?
>
> How about:
>
> "It is therefore not yet recommended to install UTF-8 encoded pages
Colin Watson wrote:
Package: debian-policy
Severity: wishlist
(...)
--- orig/policy.sgml
+++ mod/policy.sgml
@@ -8450,6 +8450,39 @@
be present in the future.
+
+
+ Manual pages that are installed under
+ /usr/share/man/ll, where ll
+
Hi Colin,
it becomes now slightly off topic but let me reply a last time to this
bug report.
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:11:04PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:30:39AM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> Vietnamese is an odd case. In the long term, I think being explicit
> (vi.UTF
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:30:39AM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:31:45PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 10:24:43PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > > + is an ISO-639 language
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:31:45PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 10:24:43PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > + is an ISO-639 language code, must be encoded with the usual
> > > + legacy (non-UTF-8) character
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 10:24:43PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > --- orig/policy.sgml
> > +++ mod/policy.sgml
> > @@ -8450,6 +8450,39 @@
> > be present in the future.
> >
> >
> > +
> > +
> > + Manual pages
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> --- orig/policy.sgml
> +++ mod/policy.sgml
> @@ -8450,6 +8450,39 @@
> be present in the future.
>
>
> +
> +
> + Manual pages that are installed under
> + /usr/share/man/ll, where ll
Please
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 02:49:20PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > + Manual pages that are installed under
> > + /usr/share/man/ll, where ll
> > + is an ISO-639 language code, must be encoded with the usual
> > + legacy (
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> + Manual pages that are installed under
> + /usr/share/man/ll, where ll
> + is an ISO-639 language code, must be encoded with the usual
> + legacy (non-UTF-8) character set for that language
[...]
> + Manu
Package: debian-policy
Severity: wishlist
[CCs: debian-i18n and debian-doc for obvious reasons, and the debhelper
maintainer since there's a dh_installman change mentioned in the
transition plan further down.]
Recently I have encountered some confusion as to the proper encoding of
manual pages (w
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