On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 08:49:28AM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Control: tags -1 patch
>
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 07:33:31AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 09:28:48PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > > >> before mounting cgroups there. So, adding elogind to LSB header
>
Control: tags -1 patch
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 07:33:31AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 09:28:48PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > >> before mounting cgroups there. So, adding elogind to LSB header
> > >> 'Should-Start'
> >
> > >I just tried exactly this with syvinit and
Thorsten,
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 09:28:48PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> >> before mounting cgroups there. So, adding elogind to LSB header
> >> 'Should-Start'
>
> >I just tried exactly this with syvinit and it works! Docker also works.
>
> So maybe an X-Start-Before in elogind?
Thanks. I
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, Andrew Bower wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:53:47AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
>> Looking at docker.io's initscript, it checks if /sys/fs/cgroup is a mount
>> point
>> before mounting cgroups there. So, adding elogind to LSB header
>> 'Should-Start'
>I just tried exactly
Hi Mark,
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:53:47AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Looking at docker.io's initscript, it checks if /sys/fs/cgroup is a mount
> point
> before mounting cgroups there. So, adding elogind to LSB header 'Should-Start'
> ought to ensure elogind is started first to mount /sys/fs/c
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 07:01:35PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Maybe. I am at (or probably beyond) my area of expertise. At the moment I am
> unsure if elogind ought to be using its own cgroups namespace or if docker.io
> is
> behaving badly here. Time for some reading
My reading of systemd'
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 07:01:35PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Control: retitle -1 elogind: use of cgroups conflicts with docker.io
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 06:29:32PM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > Control: tags 1076728 - moreinfo unreproducible
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024
Control: retitle -1 elogind: use of cgroups conflicts with docker.io
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 06:29:32PM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Control: tags 1076728 - moreinfo unreproducible
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:10:03AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > Can you please check the runtime
Control: tags 1076728 - moreinfo unreproducible
Hi Mark,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:10:03AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Can you please check the runtime data?
>
> How is /sys/fs/cgroup mounted?
Differently from yours...
$ mount|grep cgroup
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode
[ Dropping xfce4 CC ]
Andrew,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 07:52:10PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 19:15:26 +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > It looks like the agent (the legacy gnome one) fails to start when
> > launched by the DE, as does lxagent if substituted:
> >
> > Unab
I think we've moved on now, but for completeness, Simon,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 07:15:26PM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 10:53:39AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
>
> > Is the prompt inline on the terminal, or is it a separate
> > window?
>
> Inline in terminal.
>
> > pk
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 19:02:19 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> 1. there is no polkit authentication agent that is part of the XFCE
>project and is packaged in Debian;
>
> 2. installing XFCE doesn't really guarantee to provide someone else's
>polkit authentication agent, either;
I've opene
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 19:15:26 +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> It looks like the agent (the legacy gnome one) fails to start when
> launched by the DE, as does lxagent if substituted:
>
> Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid 24111
This could be an elogind problem. It indi
Mark,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 04:40:42PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 10:53:39AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > check that the desktop environment is actually launching a polkit agent and
> > registering it with polkitd on the D-Bus system bus.
Thanks for the extra check
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 16:40:42 +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On my working setup, polkitd is running
This is not in doubt: if pkexec works, then polkitd must necessarily
be either running, or available for D-Bus autostarting (after which it
will be running). If that wasn't the case then pkexec cou
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 14:53:11 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> I'm a bit unsure how to reply to your mail because I don't really see
> questions.
My question was: does XFCE provide a polkit authentication agent?
And it seems that the answer is in three parts:
1. there is no polkit authenticat
Hi Tito,
Thanks for sharing your state! (And others for helpful replies - I'm
just answering this one for now.)
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 02:43:36PM +0100, tito wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm on a sysvinit/elogind system too and have KDE and xfce4 installed.
> I use xfce4 as daily driver and everything works a
Simon,
Thanks, that is very useful.
Andrew,
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 10:53:39AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> check that the desktop environment is actually launching a polkit agent and
> registering it with polkitd on the D-Bus system bus.
I omitted to check for this in the basic steps I gave
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 10:53:39AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Context for XFCE and polkitd maintainers (cc'd): a user of XFCE on a
> sysvinit/elogind system has found that authorizing privileged operations
> via polkit is not working as intended. I'm not at all sure that this is
> actually an e
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:53:39 +
Simon McVittie wrote:
> Context for XFCE and polkitd maintainers (cc'd): a user of XFCE on a
> sysvinit/elogind system has found that authorizing privileged operations
> via polkit is not working as intended. I'm not at all sure that this is
> actually an elogin
Context for XFCE and polkitd maintainers (cc'd): a user of XFCE on a
sysvinit/elogind system has found that authorizing privileged operations
via polkit is not working as intended. I'm not at all sure that this is
actually an elogind problem: it might be a result of XFCE not obviously
containing a
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:04:00AM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 05:41:57PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> [...]
> > All lightdm and xfce hibernate/restart/shutdown options are available and
> > functional.
> ^^^
>
> This made me check: the lightdm controls are also
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 09:41:31PM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> I have some additional packages, but otherwise the same
> (libpam-elogind-compat virtual package does not seem to be available to
> install - I didn't look into it further):
That is cruft. I have removed it with no change.
Mark
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 05:41:57PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
[...]
> All lightdm and xfce hibernate/restart/shutdown options are available and
> functional.
^^^
This made me check: the lightdm controls are also unavailable so that
perhaps limits the scope of the problem.
My lightdm pr
Hi Mark,
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 05:41:57PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> I am afraid I still can't reproduce this.
Thank you so much for following up!
> Check some basics please. I have the following installed:
>
> test@DebianUnstable:~$ dpkg -l|grep -E 'polkit|elogind|systemd'|grep ^ii
> ii e
Andrew,
I am afraid I still can't reproduce this.
Check some basics please. I have the following installed:
test@DebianUnstable:~$ dpkg -l|grep -E 'polkit|elogind|systemd'|grep ^ii
ii elogind 255.5-1debian3
amd64user, seat and session ma
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 10:22:39PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 09:12:35PM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > LSM: AppArmor: enabled
>
> Is there anything in the apparmor log?
No.
> Does disabling or removing it help?
Sadly not. I have now removed it - no LSM active - but sa
Andrew,
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 09:12:35PM +, Andrew Bower wrote:
> LSM: AppArmor: enabled
Is there anything in the apparmor log? Does disabling or removing it
help?
Mark
Hi Mark,
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 09:01:58PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Control: tags -1 moreinfo unreproducible
>
> Lorenzo,
>
> Thanks for this
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 08:06:56PM +0200, Lorenzo Puliti wrote:
> > Package: elogind
> > Version: 255.5-1debian2
> > Severity: important
> > X-D
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 21:01:58 +0100
Mark Hindley wrote:
> I don't see anything in the logs you provided either (other than the
> InteractiveAuthorizationRequired failure). Have you got any custom
> polkit rules?
I don't think so, I don't even know exactly how to do that..
# ls -l /etc/polkit-1/
Control: tags -1 moreinfo unreproducible
Lorenzo,
Thanks for this
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 08:06:56PM +0200, Lorenzo Puliti wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.5-1debian2
> Severity: important
> X-Debbugs-Cc: plore...@disroot.org
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> with elogind linked to libsystemd0 privi
Package: elogind
Version: 255.5-1debian2
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: plore...@disroot.org
Hello Mark,
with elogind linked to libsystemd0 privileged operations with polkit
no longer work, example:
* reboot, shutdown, suspend via option in menù/panel of desktop
* mounting a usb stick with th
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