enables some old,
+risky, behaviours, in some circumstances.
+ * autopkgtest-virt-ssh should not be provided with a way to get root on
+the testbed, unless the whole testbed is fully isolated from any
+untrusted code. This security restriction was alwsays implied by the
+behaviour
asking the release team to override it.
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nk we'll do better in practice because this key changes
less.)
Perhaps we should consider if we want to extend the validity period on
the key, as published in this new .deb, before the trixie release.
But ISTM that key lifetime extension could be done via stable updates
(and even via LTS) but w
for example, there is no reason
for dak to accept binaries signed by tag2upload, so in a perfect
world, it wouldl not.
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Jonathan McDowell writes ("Re: Bug#1102125: debian-keyring: Please add
tag2upload oracle service key"):
> I think you want your own keyring package then, much like the archive
> keyring (debian-archive-keyring).
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the fingerprint of the tag2upload key (presumably also in
debian-keyring.deb) and teaching all the software to check it.
Those options seem considerably worse than a keyring specifically for
this key.
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signatures on source
Package: dgit
Sean informs me that non-uploading DDs can be Debian Maintainers, with
authority to upload specific packages, listed in dm.txt.
So gideon should look at that keyring too.
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I hope this helps explain things.
Thanks,
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[1] Perhaps .changes files are published somewhere but if so I don't
know where. They don't seem to be on archive mirrors.
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I checked on browse.dgit.d.o and the tags *had* been pushed and the
main branch looked up to date. I found that there was a
../bpd/dgit_12.10_source.changes so I dput it.
I also did a dgit-test-dummy upload which worked.
I think maybe there is a server-side race :-/.
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lossage"):
...
> I ran ps -Hfuian | grep tag2 and found only this and my emacs:
>
> ian 25301 1 0 Mar22 pts/198 00:03:49 /usr/bin/perl
> /home/ian/things/Dgit/dgit/infra/tag2upload-or
e.
I think this filename is wrong, and should read `po4a/dgit-user_7.nl.po`,
since that file exists, and the file you have provided does seem like
an update to it.
Please let me know if that's not right.
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archive has
crlf line endings.
I conjecture that this tune
> gbp import-orig --uscan
failed to defuse the gitattributes before doing the tarball import.
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BTW more background to this design decision in the context of dgit
can be found in this bug against src:dgit
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1079434
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r the technical discussion; probably a bug against
src:dgit, not against gbp. But in any case it should be conducteed in
a collaborative way.)
Now, I am going to try to focus on the technical aspects.
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 10:40:27 + Ian Jackson
> wrote:
..
> > This isn't
dd -u only if the dput command =~ m/dput/ (but we'd need the
user to be able to override it with --dput!:--unchecked
and that is goign to be fiddly).
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*just the default* would suffice.
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Package: rust-derive-deftly-macros
Severity: serious
Version: 1.0.0-1
rust-derive-deftly didn't make it through NEW.
I will be replacing this package one way or another.
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Specifically, in the usual case,
git-rebase -i dgit/dgit/sid
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usm...
Waiting for notifications... (timeout 5sec 0nsec)
Detaching complete...
Child sent some notification...
-> Notification => ready for service.
tag2upload-manager@tag2upload-manager-01:/srv/manager.tag2upload.debian.org$
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easons as dgit does:
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When gitattributes are active, the git view will not be compatible
with tag2upload.
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nformation in the header?
I think that depends on the use case. Eg, you might carry on without
the relevant information. Whether that's acceptable depends on the
semantic needs of the consumer.
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future. Users of this field must ignore unknown keywords.
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hers.
If you think that's a good idea, then we should reassign this bug to
src:podman, to represent the desire to make that change there.
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image. Those
concurrent uses should not be disturbed.
Likewise, the cleanup operation ought not to disturb in-progress uses,
but that'll be easier since hopefully there's an operation that will
only want to delete "old and unused" things.
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essful command is being run in a different
directory.
dgit will show its chdirs if you say -D, but I believe that it runs
the dput from the package working tree.
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Would you like to take over the package? If so, please go ahead.
I feel you have more understanding of it now.
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ven find my own previous report the 2nd time round...
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Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#986665: $HOME not writable when using schroot"):
...
> * Decide that virt servers are allowed to not provide $HOME.
>Have the autopkgtest virt core check to see if some home directory
>exists, and "polyfill" it by using so
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Bug#986665: $HOME not writable when using schroot"):
> It turns out that Ian Jackson is an example of someone who specifically
> *does* want their real $HOME to be mounted in the chroot, and rejects
> the non-schroot backends for exactly this reason.
Package: dgit-infrastructure
Version: 10.3
Recently I have seen dgit push being slow on a number of occasions.
Output included things like this:
remote: gpgv: Good signature from "Ian Jackson (new general purpose key)
"
remote: gpgv: aka "Ian Jackson "
remo
de in the testbed that I
trust, precisely because often I find the imperfect security isolation
convenient. I think this is a common use case for Debian maintainers.
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fusing and a bit
unprincipled. I attach a patch to rationalise it. It may print more
warnings now, but it will not crash unless it actually needs to, and
the logic is now the same (and, I hope, reasonable) in all cases.
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>From 95e85dfbe10deb90dde98101566886ebd50cc410 Mon Sep 17 00
. The CHANGELOG.md
entry for 2.3 says
* Replace AppIndicator with DBus StatusNotifierItem
I think this bug may have been fixed as a side effect of that change.
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to.
(FTR I consider describing someone else's software as deprecated,
without consulting them, as intolerably rude and hostile.)
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d is using it too. I have used it in other more ad-hoc
situations. By its nature, there may be out-of-Debian users.
I do agree that the code in the autopkgtest test runner is tangled.
It was tangled when I wrote it and I think it has become worse since
then. I think this is orthogonal to
ound.
FTR, I do not consider this compromise "good".
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(at least IMO) we don't
want the new autopkgtest to migrate to testing until the removed parts
are available in the new package.
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ing it any time soon. If there were suggestions that
it might be removed, I would probably adopt it.
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Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#1094634: Info received (autopkgtest-virt-*:
doesn't shutdown on EOF [and 1 more messages])"):
> If this is in fact getting EAGAIN it probably indicates that something
> was setting stdin to nonblocking mode? The workaround is quite wrong.
I conj
kgtest-virt-unshare.
I think there is something to be said for this point of view. For
now, I'll downgrade this bug report.
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hink that behaviour would makes sense, perhaps even as a default.
After all, the actual chroot is deleted, so any processes which remain
have an empty root fs. Leftover processes are possibly broken in
other ways too.
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upposed to
+# block for new input.
+if ce == '':
+continue
since then a delay was added too, and a check for EAGAIN.
If this is in fact getting EAGAIN it probably indicates that something
was setting stdin to nonblocking mode? The workaround is quite w
Control: retitle -1 autopkgtest-virt-*: doesn't shutdown on EOF [and 1 more
messages]
This doesn't seem to be specific to autopkgtest-virt-unshare.
Here's another case:
Steps
autopkgtest-virt-null
rt-to-gbp" on
archive/debian/0.9.10+2024-06-05+gba9ed5b2-0.6 may be helpful.
I have not updated any branch on salsa.
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Control: reassign -1 libfaketime
Control: found -1 0.9.10+2024-06-05+gba9ed5b2-0.1
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Control: reassign -1 faketime
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Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#1093412: Regression in tests with new faketime"):
> Control: reassign -1 fakeroot
> Control: found -1 debia
me.
I see that the reprotest autopkgtest is now fixed, after I restored
the default to not fake utime.
There is still a problem with the gem2deb autopkgtests which looks
like UB. I found some UB (#1093599) and am intending to fix it.
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I intend to develop a patch to change this to use sound locking
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Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#1093412: Regression in tests with new faketime"):
> Why are we passing NO_FAKE_STAT here?
I UTSL and in reprotest/build.py I see:
# faketime's manpages are stupidly misleading; it also modifies file
timestamps.
# this is only mentioned in
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#1093412: Regression in tests with new faketime"):
> Why are we passing NO_FAKE_STAT here?
>
> Maybe the problem is that faketime isn't honouring NO_FAKE_STAT.
> I will see if I can confirm...
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000 +
> $ NO_FAKE_STAT=1 faketime '+331hours' cp -a utils.py utils2.py
> $ stat -c '%y' utils2.py
> 2023-01-30 08:10:37.0 +
Why are we passing NO_FAKE_STAT here?
Maybe the problem is that faketime isn't honouring NO_FAKE_STAT.
I will
lution? If not, would it be possible for
> `dgit` to enable an easier way to change the default upload host?
I think the (d)git config dgit-distro.distro.upload-host is indeed the
answer to this question.
Hope this helps.
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Probably, some call is being handled differently by the new faketime.
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Control: close -1 1.6.1-2
Uploaded, thanks. Sorry for the delay, our house is being chaos for a
few weeks - building works after a water leak.
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I think I have a fix. I'm preparing another NMU. It'll be based on
latest unreleased upstream git.
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around,
`TZ=UTC date` may help (but may change the interpretation of your time
specification).
Thanks,
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that
the autopkgtest starts passing as
> a result. If this bug stays RC and against faketime until fixed that
> should prevent unwanted migration.
Noted. Thanks.
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Control: reassign -1 faketime
Hi. Thanks very much for your investigation.
Olly Betts writes ("Re: Bug#1093153: xapian-omega autopkgtests and faketime on
32-bit"):
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 07:29:54PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > 40s expected: «Query((Y2000 .
en. Allowing the new faketime to
migrate, despite the missing interposition for stat, would be a
significant improvement. I'm hoping you'll agree.
FTR, IMO if this bug gets anywhere near triggering autoremoval of
xapian-omega, we should do something less drastic instead.
Thanks,
Ian
h will expect them all to exist.
is an unambiguous description of the proposed change.)
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> Would it be possible to avoid including the rules file into the
> temporary archive, or doing so only when present?
Probably. That might even work :-), and be correct.
(Can you state the current commitid at the head of that repo? I'd
hate for your repro instructions - thanks! - to
that builds (including 32-bit) are passing.
+(riscv64 and mips64el are lagging but I think likely to pass.)
+
+ -- Ian Jackson Mon, 13 Jan 2025 09:32:03
+
+
+faketime (0.9.10-2.4~exp0.1) experimental; urgency=medium
+
+ * Non-maintainer upload.
+ * Apply patches to try to fix 32-bit
Package: userv
Version: 1.2.1~beta4
https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/diffoscope-results/userv.html
Shows differences in build-id in executables, and a date in
spec.pdf.gz.
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roach I didn't investigate was to try upstream unreleased
mainline. If we did that we'd probably want to review quite carefully
what we were shipping. I don't think this is suitable for the NMU I
am now preparing.
Anyway, thanks for the contribution, and sorry not to be includ
use DELAYED for
either step of this. I hope you find this helpful.
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it may be possible to get this to work without. In
chiark-utils, /usr/sbin/really is also setuid root and this is somehow
arranged without fakeroot.
Presumbly something similar could work here. I haven't investigated.
FTR I am open to a patch.
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Control: severity -1 normal
Please do not increase the severity of these bugs again.
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I spotted the shlib one.
I have now done this.
Your patch, and my fixups (see above, plus a few .gitignore additions)
will be in sid shortly.
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ion for me of course would be to do my before-and-after
build tests on trixie or bookworm. But, again, that doesn't actually
validate precisely the things I want to check.
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ges from an NMU.
When the maintainer always uses dgit, this could happen only if the
NMU went to DELAYED *and* wasn't made with dgit. (When that's
happened, there is no sane machine-accessible way to detect the
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From: Ian Jackson
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:32:04 +
Subject: [PATCH] autopkgtest-virt-null: New --retain-tmp option
Closes: #1092771
---
virt/autopkgtest-virt-null | 7 ++-
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/virt/autopkgtest-vir
Paul Gevers writes ("Re: Bug#1092771: autopkgtest-virt-*: Want way to retain
tmpdir"):
> On 11-01-2025 13:32, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > When working with autopkgtest, it is sometimes useful to be able to
> > retain the tmp directory for inspection.
>
> We ha
gtest-virt-null. It would be nice if we could have a
feature for this before the unwrranted assumptions become false - then
we can probe for the new feature, and only do crimes with old
autopkgtest where there's not a better way.
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We could have added
this option with a fraction of the effort spent on trying to argue
that it's not necessary.
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uters behave. My goal when working on Debian
is to help make that possible. That includes users I don't know, and
it includes distant users who don't have all the relevant information
and skills and who may have done some broken stuff. We should try to
make the software we supply easy and
Niels Thykier writes ("Re: Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm
r-r-r behaviour"):
> Ian Jackson:
> >> dgit's test suite uses some rule-invocation-tracking test packages to
> >> see which targets get invoked by various build modes. (This is
have to
probe for the option.
I'm filing this bug as "normal" because I think that's warranted by
the behavioural regression for out-of-Debian users.
Thanks for your attention.
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dpkg-buildpackage to be unsupported everywhere.
* Stop passing the option and adjust the src:dgit tests (possibly
adding new test invocations if coverage otherwise becomes poor).
But, it's not clear yet if this is going to be a workable approach.
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step of the way in my book.
Thanks for this work. I hope to look at this soon.
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ool. I did not debug further than that.
I will do so.
I find this kind of thing quite annoying. If I had more time, I would
do some kind of archive-wide test rebuild. Maybe after t2u is going I
can persuade someone enthusiastic that this is a good idea.
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NMU (enabling me to skip the delay). Thanks in advance.
I've reviewed the patch and it LGTM. Please go ahead and upload it.
(Ideally, you would use dgit for the upload. The dgit-nmu-simple(7)
workflow would be suitable. But I won't insist.)
Thanks!
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> Like with authbind, this might be overdue for a packaging rewrite. Let
> me know if you are interested in that.
You are very probably right about it needing a packaging rewrite. It
really ought to be using dh, although I'm not sure how well that will
fit given how anomalous the upstre
I should say, thanks for looking at this, and the fixes for this are
welcome. I don't feel confident in my knowledge of groff but I'm
happy to take your word for it :-).
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ably do that as a
separate package, but when we do that we ought to see if any of our
patches are applicable - and that'll be easier if they don't include
purely cosmetic, but textually intrusive, changes.
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Ian Jackson writes ("Bug#1082668: /usr/bin/blueman-applet: LoadException: Not
loading conflicting plugin NMPANSupport"):
> I run blueman-applet from an xterm and it says:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/bin/blueman-applet", line 3
worry about cancelling the upload. It's memorialised in the git
history anyway now, which is OK. Your next upload will need to be git
fast forward from the last one.
Yes, please do do another upload for that.
> I'll let you know when I've fixed the team issue
Thanks,
Ian.
Andreas Tille writes ("Re: Bug#1089975: ITS: xfonts-traditional"):
> Am Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:11:55PM +0000 schrieb Ian Jackson:
> > One concern I have is that, err, how to put this: I think some people
> > may consider xfonts-traditional "obsolete" or "
git for the psutils upload.
> I confirm I'll do so in case you might accept the ITS. ;-)
Thanks. My opinion is that all uploads should be done with dgit where
possible. But I don't feel entitled to request this unless I'm the
maintainer, or something.
Ian.
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s broken.
You can work around it by saying `dgit --for-push ` which causes
it to use the real origin server over ssh (accessible to DD/DM only).
The right place to report this problem is Debian RT. I will file a
ticket now.
Ian.
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toring, auditing, archival, and debugging.
Suitable for possible automated auditing of uploads.
List is not for discussion; it may not always be monitored by humans.
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Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#1089632: dgit: --delayed not passed through to
dput-ng"):
> $ dgit --damp-run --delayed=5 push-source
> ...
> # dput --delayed=5 ftp-master '../bpd/dgit_12.1~WRONG_source.changes'
&g
Sean Whitton writes ("Bug#1089632: dgit: --delayed not passed through to
dput-ng"):
> Package: dgit
> Version: 12.0
> Severity: important
>
> An NMU I did today with --delayed=5 hit unstable immediately.
How unfortunate.
> The only thing that I can think is that I use dput-ng and dgit only
> kn
o possibly involve importing rust-maint-common as a
git-subtree, since that's where my favourite script for doing this is.
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of this.
Right.
> As `dgit pull' uses `git merge' underneath, passing
> `--allow-unrelated-histories' will make `dgit pull' easier to use in
> such cases.
I think it likely that passing
--git:--allow-unrelated-histories
will work. But we should probably have a
-_at_installation_time
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