Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On 2014-01-09 13:10, Cari Machet wrote: > if u really want to know what i think then u need to know my thought > processies are not like "white" ppl Are you one thirty second Indian, or one sixty fourth? > ideas of ownership are foreign to me i am native american and most > tribes though they l

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On 1/9/14, Juan Garofalo wrote: > > Well, but didn't they, using 'white' terminology, jointly owned the land > they were living in? (and then whites came along and stole...) this may explain a little more http://www.barefootsworld.net/seattle.html yes "white terminology" holds white CONC

the idiot cari machet

On being nice/polite to fucking driveling idiots one word dont.. and those who make claims of being indigenous, pure blood etc "native american? JUST more FUCKING RACE NAZI(s)! what we are suppose to model for fucking professional "victims" like Cari Machett?? Native Amerindian?? GIVE ME A FUC

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

--On Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:10 AM +0100 Cari Machet wrote: > On 1/9/14, Juan Garofalo wrote: > >> Let's say I grow my own food. Do you think I'm the onwer of the food I >> grow? Or maybe some people, let's call them the 'government', have a >> 'right' to my food? > > > if u reall

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On 2014-01-09 08:11, Cari Machet wrote: to all the libratarians on the planet that 'believe' in ownership 'belief' and 'ownership' are idiotic arcane notions of anthropocentric type amygdala activity Have you ever wondered why whenever you guys succeed in doing away with private property, you

Re: Fw: Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to screw you

(perhaps that is it then, if a circling c-130 electronics warfare aircraft can siphon up all signals in a given geography else satellite overhead and access all Vehicle IDs to target and track. thanks for the info) d...@geer.org> wrote: > > > about the V2V cars- what is the likelihood that auto

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On 1/9/14, Juan Garofalo wrote: > Let's say I grow my own food. Do you think I'm the onwer of the food I > grow? Or maybe some people, let's call them the 'government', have a > 'right' to my food? if u really want to know what i think then u need to know my thought processies are not lik

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

--On Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:09 AM +0100 Cari Machet wrote: > the notion that an idea of private property as all encompassing is > banal > there are no absolutes Let's say I grow my own food. Do you think I'm the onwer of the food I grow? Or maybe some people, let's call them the

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

the notion that an idea of private property as all encompassing is banal > there are no absolutes but to parse it for you believing in something is about religion which is smoke and mirrors + the public sphere is waning if you havent noticed but its not so much an emergency but an emergence of the

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

coderman wrote: > i am exploring a gambit for disclosure post-statute-of-limitations, > but even this protection seems meager and risky. > (that is a beautiful idea)

Re: Fw: Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to screw you

> about the V2V cars- what is the likelihood that automobiles are _not > tagged in some way, just like computers, given that location or other > data is critically important and perhaps more easily accessible or > tracked outside of a particular environment... If you have a newish car, it has

Re: A short sad history of Lance Detweiler our first NET.LOON Re: Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

On 1/8/14, 5:10 PM, coderman wrote: On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:22 AM, gwen hastings wrote: ... This kind treatment of the truth was drove our first list foil Detweiler stark raving bonkers and sent him raving on the list about tentacles of MEDUSA especially after list participants picked up and s

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

--On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:11 PM +0100 Cari Machet wrote: > to all the libratarians on the planet that 'believe' in ownership In case you're addressing me... =P (well, you seem to be talking to James, but replied to a post of mine, so I'm not sure) > > 'b

Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Jim Bell wrote: > > However, those Quakers' positions may have been erroneous, based on a > misunderstanding of the relevant law. A person may claim to be 'not guilty' > based on the fact that he wasn't there, he didn't do it, etc. But, he may > also claim t

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

OHAI, As somebody noted in some other thread here lately, "well, that escalated quickly". Dnia czwartek, 9 stycznia 2014 01:41:23 Cari Machet pisze: > 1st off if someone is indigenous it is not the same as being native > polish > mayb u r ignorant of indigenous information AND if an > indigenous

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

It's not a real Usenet flame war until there's been a spelling flame or two*. "UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT information is ENCOURAGED". At 10:03 AM 1/8/2014, Griffin Boyce wrote: On 2014-01-08 12:59, shel...@misanthropia.info wrote: On Jan 8, 2014 9:48

Re: A short sad history of Lance Detweiler our first NET.LOON Re: Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:22 AM, gwen hastings wrote: > ... > This kind treatment of the truth was drove our first list foil Detweiler > stark raving bonkers and sent him raving on the list about tentacles of > MEDUSA especially after list participants picked up and started remailer > bombing him w

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

On 1/9/14, d...@geer.org wrote: > > > ...snip... > > taxation becomes tithing for the atheistic 'church of state' that > > has as its communion a monetary unit separated from its truth > > > > this enforcement of taxation by ideologues is confirmation of faith > > in money as value, as moral

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:51 PM, coderman wrote: > ... > disclosure post-statute-of-limitations, but even this protection seems > meager and risky. for the permanent record: this is no admission of wrong doing, even long past. merely distance from perceived wrong doing that led to opportunities

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Adam Back wrote: > ... > Independent security researcher can be risky. Get a legal signed doc from > the people you audit people say (yeah like they're gonna give you one for an > unsolicited investigation). > > Weev was an independent security researcher after all

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

1st off if someone is indigenous it is not the same as being native polish > mayb u r ignorant of indigenous information AND if an indigenous person wants to talk about it 2 times on a list i think that is interesting not something to censor > i am not interested in censoring or being censored that

Omidyar-Greenwald Scam to Sell Crypto?

Pierre Omidyar's Business Model for First Look is Like a Second Life or Anti-Virus Guard Scam http://3dblogger.typepad.com/wired_state/2014/01/pierre-omidyars-business-model-for-first-look-is-like-a-second-life-or-anti-virus-guard-scam.html

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

> ...snip... > taxation becomes tithing for the atheistic 'church of state' that > has as its communion a monetary unit separated from its truth > > this enforcement of taxation by ideologues is confirmation of faith > in money as value, as morality, as highest framework of evaluation, > m

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides (corrections)

sorry: brain damage. correction for brain-blip misinfo... so an illusion may exist or > persist of 'no control' or 'wildness' while thoroughly accounted for at > another level or layer, where the specs are closed by the originators > and root of one level may NOT access root of another, or those c

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

Dnia czwartek, 9 stycznia 2014 00:23:50 Cari Machet pisze: > ok mayb i was a little over zealous > i am native american prone to > being close to life > Why do you keep bringing your native-americanness in every otehr post is beyond me. I'm a native Pole, somebody here is probably a native German

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

ok mayb i was a little over zealous > i am native american prone to being close to life > so if i build a road and you have a car wreck on it shld i b liable if you kill someone with your car plus it opens the door for other opensource 'heretical' laws to be promulgated on the citizenry for

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014, at 02:35 PM, staticsafe wrote: (snip) > > Most mailing lists I've encountered do not mess with the reply-to > header. cryptome & libtech do (just two I can think of right off) Btw: yes, I hate html on lists too. Will try not to reply using my shitty mobile email client when

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 23:32:59 Cari Machet pisze: > On 1/8/14, rysiek wrote: > > Maybe it's time to try to get some vendor liability/warranty going? > > FASCISM Fascinating assertion. -- Pozdr rysiek signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 22:35:37 staticsafe pisze: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 11:25:37PM +0100, rysiek wrote: > > Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 14:16:20 shel...@misanthropia.info pisze: > > > Top-post  top-post  top-post!! > > > > > > Just apologizing for the off-list reply, rysiek.   Meant to po

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014, at 02:35 PM, staticsafe wrote: (snip) > > Most mailing lists I've encountered do not mess with the reply-to > header. cryptome & libtech do (just two I can think of right off) Btw: yes, I hate html on lists too. Will try not to reply using my shitty mobile email client when

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

Thanks. We posted the Wassenaar changes on Cryptome on December 19. http://cryptome.org/2013/12/wassenaar-intrusion.htm http://cryptome.org/2013/12/wassenaar-list-13-1204.pdf The intrusion software has received some but not sufficient attention. And beyond the sections you cite there are many c

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides (addenda)

context: forgot to mention overriding hypothesis that state of insecure crypto - as with nukes - may be price of peace for cold war reunification in improved framework, thus structural duplicity has wider impact than inside states alone, could also bridge state-state secure relations in parallel wi

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 11:25:37PM +0100, rysiek wrote: > Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 14:16:20 shel...@misanthropia.info pisze: > > Top-post  top-post  top-post!! > > > > Just apologizing for the off-list reply, rysiek.   Meant to post to > > list, forgot to change the address line (stupid mobile

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

On 1/8/14, rysiek wrote: > Maybe it's time to try to get some vendor liability/warranty going? FASCISM -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimac...@gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Twitter: @carimachet

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 14:16:20 shel...@misanthropia.info pisze: > Top-post  top-post  top-post!! > > Just apologizing for the off-list reply, rysiek.   Meant to post to > list, forgot to change the address line (stupid mobile email client...) Maybe the list owner could change the Reply-To o

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 11:05:08PM +0100, rysiek wrote: > Hi there, > > since we're already deep into Usenet territory, I'll just leave this message > here and see what happens. > > -- > Pozdr > rysiek https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#What_is_top-posting_.28and_why_shouldn.27t_I_do_

Re: HTML on-list messages, top-posting

Top-post  top-post  top-post!! Just apologizing for the off-list reply, rysiek.   Meant to post to list, forgot to change the address line (stupid mobile email client...) Regards, -Hitler  On Jan 8, 2014 2:10 PM, rysiek wrote: Hi there, since we're already deep in

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

to all the libratarians on the planet that 'believe' in ownership 'belief' and 'ownership' are idiotic arcane notions of anthropocentric type amygdala activity https://archive.org/details/The_Shock_Doctrine.The_Rise_of_Disaster_Capitalism this means you james > with a caveat that obama is a disg

HTML on-list messages, top-posting

Hi there, since we're already deep into Usenet territory, I'll just leave this message here and see what happens. -- Pozdr rysiek signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

OHAI, Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 16:38:26 d...@geer.org pisze: > Keying off of one phrase alone, > > > This combat is about far more than crypto... It is indeed, and many of us are fighting in many more areas than crypto alone. But strong crypto helps immensely, I can assure you from my exper

Re: Private Distributed Hash Tables

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 13:46:15 Rich Jones pisze: > I suppose RetroShare and GNUnet are similar in that they have 'Friend to > Friend' capabilities, but as we see in practice, they don't create > high-quality networks because there is no hierarchy of trust or > discoverability of new users - b

Re: Private Distributed Hash Tables

I suppose RetroShare and GNUnet are similar in that they have 'Friend to Friend' capabilities, but as we see in practice, they don't create high-quality networks because there is no hierarchy of trust or discoverability of new users - by default, users can't interact with 'friends-of-friends', whic

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

Keying off of one phrase alone, > This combat is about far more than crypto... I suggest you immediately familiarize yourself with last month's changes to the Wassenaar Agreement, perhaps starting here: http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2013/international_agreement_reached_controlling_export

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 12:45:55 d...@geer.org pisze: > > 5) another realization upon hearing the 30c3 talk of Jacob Appelbaum > > was the 'earth firewall' then indicates that the NSA controls the > > internet, > > and that it is not operating as a subset within it, and instead > > everyth

Re: This

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 15:38:37 Robert Hettinga pisze: > On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla > wrote: > > I haven’t had > > > This. --> > > much fun since the hogs ate my little brother, I tellyawot… Well, they ate my Makers and Pirate Cinema, but I ain't bitchin' 'bout it.

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 13:03:19 Griffin Boyce pisze: > On 2014-01-08 12:59, shel...@misanthropia.info wrote: > > On Jan 8, 2014 9:48 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen > > wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > >>> You should spend some of that energy on learning not to top-post. > > > > Ah, there it is. > >

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 15:54:28 demonfighter6 . pisze: > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM, wrote: > > Ah, there it is. > > *Now* it feels like authentic usenet. > > No, not quite yet. > > People who top-post are just like ***Hitler***! > > There, that should do it. God, win! -- Pozdr rys

Re: Private Distributed Hash Tables

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 11:58:01 Rich Jones pisze: > Far too much yap yap yappin' around here lately.. cpunks write code, > remember? Let's get back to business. > > Here's an idea for a private, censorship-resistant communication/file > sharing system with integrated invitations and access co

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 17:03:39 Adam Back pisze: > What you said is correct, that is what needs to happen (society and law > needs to move out of the dark ages), and the only way for that to happen > is brave canaries with squeaky clean reps, and sharp lawyers to blaze the > path. Indubitably

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM, wrote: > Ah, there it is. > *Now* it feels like authentic usenet. No, not quite yet. People who top-post are just like ***Hitler***! There, that should do it. -- Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet. -- Arnaud-Amaury, 1209

Re: Welcome to Juan Garafalo our newest NET.LOON (to replace Detweiler/Sternlight)

--On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:21 AM -0800 gwen hastings wrote: > Hey All, > Its really exciting.. we finally have a NET.LOON on the scale of > Detweiler and Sternlight... Finally this list will start moving again :) > > Thanx Juan for Showing up.. if you had NOT I would have had to

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

--On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 6:59 AM -0500 Ulex Europae wrote: > At 02:07 AM 1/8/2014, Juan Garofalo wrote: > >> fucking americunt fascist. > > > Russian emigre. Yes there is a difference, and yes that is relevant. As a transplanted nationalist, she was even more rabid

Private Distributed Hash Tables

Far too much yap yap yappin' around here lately.. cpunks write code, remember? Let's get back to business. Here's an idea for a private, censorship-resistant communication/file sharing system with integrated invitations and access control. I don't think I've ever seen this before, but it's quite p

Re: This

On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla wrote: I haven’t had > This. --> much fun since the hogs ate my little brother, I tellyawot… Cheers, RAH signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany

From: "d...@geer.org" To: James A. Donald Cc: cypherpunks@cpunks.org Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany | In practice, it is pretty obvious that most practitioners of civil | disobedience believe they are above the law, that they usually *are*

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

> > ecc public key curve p160 > ;9C~b~)3)cp0d!?C1JIVI=tI( You curve is small. Get a bigger one.

Re: This

This. --> >Well that escalated quickly. > >Considering that my entire generation of hackers & cypherpunks is > being eviscerated -- surveilled, investigated, their professional lives > threatened, I don't really care about in-fighting. When people stop > being terrified of releasing their

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

On 2014-01-08 12:59, shel...@misanthropia.info wrote: On Jan 8, 2014 9:48 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote: (snip) You should spend some of that energy on learning not to top-post. Ah, there it is. *Now* it feels like authentic usenet. Maybe we should have a hundred-message thread fight

The number of fucks in a thimble

Well that escalated quickly. Considering that my entire generation of hackers & cypherpunks is being eviscerated -- surveilled, investigated, their professional lives threatened, I don't really care about in-fighting. When people stop being terrified of releasing their own research, maybe

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

On Jan 8, 2014 9:48 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:  (snip) >>You should spend some of that energy on learning not to top-post.   Ah, there it is. *Now* it feels like authentic usenet.   Please, do let the flaming and fuckery continue!

Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides

> 5) another realization upon hearing the 30c3 talk of Jacob Appelbaum > was the 'earth firewall' then indicates that the NSA controls the internet, > and that it is not operating as a subset within it, and instead everything > that occurs is within its domain The Internet is not controll

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, gwen hastings wrote: > Fuck You Griffin(happy now?) > > yes and FUCK you too!!..Who GIVES a FLYING FUCK as to what YOU CARE > ABOUT... > > those who dont remember the past are doomed to forever repeat it.. > GH > > idiot fuckwad kids > > The burglar thi

Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany

| In practice, it is pretty obvious that most practitioners of civil | disobedience believe they are above the law, that they usually *are* | above the law, and that in particular Swartz believed he was above the | law, and was shocked to find that he was not. | | There might be some sin

Re: FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

This was all really boring the first time around. -- Lance Cottrell l...@obscura.com On Jan 8, 2014, at 9:23 AM, gwen hastings wrote: > Fuck You Griffin(happy now?) > > yes and FUCK you too!!..Who GIVES a FLYING FUCK as to what YOU CARE ABOUT... > > those who dont remember the past are

FUCK GRIFFIN BOYCE And yet ANOTHER NET.LOON Candidate Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

Fuck You Griffin(happy now?) yes and FUCK you too!!..Who GIVES a FLYING FUCK as to what YOU CARE ABOUT... those who dont remember the past are doomed to forever repeat it.. GH idiot fuckwad kids On 1/8/14 9:02 AM, Griffin Boyce wrote: > The amount of fucks I give about this can be

Re: Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

The amount of fucks I give about this can be conveniently stored within a thimble. If the drama is twenty years hence, maybe it's time to move beyond it? ~Griffin On 2014-01-08 11:49, gwen hastings wrote: From ld231782 Wed Dec 29 21:33:12 1993 Return-Path: ld231782 Received: from dolores.

Earlier Detweiler ravings!!

>From ld231782 Wed Dec 29 21:33:12 1993 Return-Path: ld231782 Received: from dolores.lance.colostate.edu (dolores.lance.colostate.edu [129.82.112.18]) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA27831; Wed, 29 Dec 1993 21:32:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199312300432.vaa27...@longs.lance.col

A short sad history of Lance Detweiler our first NET.LOON Re: Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

Doesnt Surprise me, During the original publication cycle of PGP an effort was made to reach out to mitch kapor and john perry barlow for aid from EFF but Jim Bidsoz was already there with his lies that PGP was stolen/purloined code and thus mitch/perry washed his hands of PGP. FUCK THEM.. F

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

What you said is correct, that is what needs to happen (society and law needs to move out of the dark ages), and the only way for that to happen is brave canaries with squeaky clean reps, and sharp lawyers to blaze the path. My version was just to say be aware of the risks, that you would take by

Re: Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

I love it, pure poetry :) Go JYA! (reformatted slightly) On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 10:29:26AM -0500, John Young wrote: [...] Significant variations of braggardy, from loud to quiet. overstatement to understatement. Chump version: "needs killing." Chimp version: Snowden is a hero, or traitor.

Re: Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

Did you read today (NYT) that one of the founders of EFF, Mitch Kapor, was a first investor in a leading ubiqutious camera spying venture to put in the hands of everybody what once was used only by spies and cops? Everybody is TLA, TLA is everybody. Snowden, allegedly, gave docs to a world-class

Welcome to Juan Garafalo our newest NET.LOON (to replace Detweiler/Sternlight)

Hey All, Its really exciting.. we finally have a NET.LOON on the scale of Detweiler and Sternlight... Finally this list will start moving again :) Thanx Juan for Showing up.. if you had NOT I would have had to Create/Invent you ... Illogical, disorganized mentally and emotionally .. s

Re: Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

> Snowden wanted to be identified, so it is alleged, and > has been caught as intended. I think the reasoning with Snowden was not so much to brag as to make himself a hard-to-assassinate public figure. In his case, so few people could have acquired the documents he did, that it was a matter of (l

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

>>> Cypherpunks write code & all that, gives James some brownie points. The NSA wrote some great code. SELinux, hardened DES against DC (yes, yes, low keystrength). Helped standardise lots of primitives that seem to work well, too. I guess they're upstanding, awesome folk, those NSA guys. Nothing

Brag About Exploits, Go to Jail

James Donald wrote: And if he had, like Snowden, kept a low profile, instead of flicking a towel in their faces, they never would have detected it. Swartz bragged to a slew of people and was caught. Manning bragged to Lamo and was caught. Kiriakou bragged to a journalist and was caught. Sabu b

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

At 02:31 AM 1/8/2014, James A. Donald wrote: Aaron Swartz entered the closet where the networks were all wired up together, and wired his laptop to the network... I haven't seen anyone here dispute that he entered the physical premises and physically connected to the network. While you've be

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

At 02:07 AM 1/8/2014, Juan Garofalo wrote: fucking americunt fascist. Russian emigre. Yes there is a difference, and yes that is relevant. --ue

Re: hacker != cracker (Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon)

On Jan 8, 2014, at 3:10 AM, James A. Donald wrote: > The term hacker first appears 1975 - 1985 I think Levy might beg to differ: http://www.amazon.com/Hackers-Computer-Revolution-Anniversary-Edition/dp/1449388396 Something about hacking the wires under the train layout at the MIT model railr

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: > the vast majority of self-described libertarians I now are > actually conservatives Horrors. Mass hysteria. Cats and dogs living together… Cheers, RAH signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On Jan 8, 2014, at 3:07 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote: > fascism Communist loan-word. ;-) Cheers, RAH signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

Anyone written a script yet that deletes any thread where Al and Juan start addressing one another? Juan Garofalo wrote: > > >--On Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:32 PM -0800 Al Billings > wrote: > >> So you're a nihilist? Why not shoot yourself now then if life has no >> point? > > That's an

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On 2014-01-08 17:44, Juan Garofalo wrote: "Our monitoring systems did not alert us to accelerated downloading at MIT in November and most of December. By mid-December we had completed work on the redirect and, pending testing by JSTOR and by MIT, planned to implement the change in early

Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)

On 2014-01-08 17:35, Juan Garofalo wrote: "Meanwhile, on October 14, we asked MIT if they could identify the person responsible because we wanted to understand the downloader's motivation, to ensure the articles already downloaded would not be distributed," MIT, however. made no real e