Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Charles Wilson
On 7/7/2010 8:39 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jul 7 08:08, Charles Wilson wrote: >> I hope I have summed up the various competing proposals fairly, and that >> this edition of my patented War and Peace emails helps move the >> discussion along to a conclusion. > > Ok, I'm sufficiently confuse

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 06:22:30PM -0400, NightStrike wrote: >On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Charles Wilson > wrote: >> On 7/7/2010 5:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44:14PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: > >

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 06:12:23PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >On 7/7/2010 5:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44:14PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >>> On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: How's it built now? >>> >>> With Cygwin gcc and the -mno-cygwin option, us

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Charles Wilson wrote: > On 7/7/2010 5:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44:14PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >>> >>> On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: How's it built now? >>> >>> With Cygwin gcc and the -mno-cygwin option

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Charles Wilson
On 7/7/2010 5:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44:14PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: How's it built now? With Cygwin gcc and the -mno-cygwin option, using mingw.org's w32api. It doesn't use -mno-cygwin. How could it? The build

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Andy Koppe
On 7 July 2010 22:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44:14PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >>On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: I suppose you could build cygwin with a mingw compiler but that's not how it's built now so I don't see why it makes a difference.

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44:14PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: >>> I suppose you could build cygwin with a mingw compiler but that's not >>> how it's built now so I don't see why it makes a difference. >>> >>> cgf >> >> How's it built now? > >With Cygwin gcc a

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Charles Wilson
On 7/7/2010 11:12 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: The important question for me is, can Cygwin be built using the w32api based on the mingw64 sources? Is it possible? Maybe; we'll just have to try it. Is it legally permissible, given (possibly overblown?) concerns about provenance of the changes

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Andy Koppe
On 7 July 2010 18:27, NightStrike wrote: >> I suppose you could build cygwin with a mingw compiler but that's not >> how it's built now so I don't see why it makes a difference. >> >> cgf > > How's it built now? With Cygwin gcc and the -mno-cygwin option, using mingw.org's w32api. Andy

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Charles Wilson
On 7/7/2010 9:48 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 7 08:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* sysroot idea. However, I don't like the idea in the least to keep two

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:16:54AM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >>On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:33 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >Here's my question, though: given the incompatibilities mentioned, would >>> >a cygwin1.dll built with

Re: [ITP] libkate - Karaoke codec

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 08:34, David Rothenberger wrote: > On 7/7/2010 1:19 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Jul 6 15:41, David Rothenberger wrote: > >> On 7/6/2010 2:55 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 11:19 -0700, David Rothenberger wrote: > I'd like to package libkate[1] in pre

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:16:54AM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:33 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >Here's my question, though: given the incompatibilities mentioned, would >> >a cygwin1.dll built with i686-w64-cygwin (mingw-w64) toolchain be 100% >> >compatible wit

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:33 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >Here's my question, though: given the incompatibilities mentioned, would > >a cygwin1.dll built with i686-w64-cygwin (mingw-w64) toolchain be 100% > >compatible with current and past releases built with i686-pc-cygwin > >(mingw.org) to

Re: [ITP] libkate - Karaoke codec

2010-07-07 Thread David Rothenberger
On 7/7/2010 1:19 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jul 6 15:41, David Rothenberger wrote: >> On 7/6/2010 2:55 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >>> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 11:19 -0700, David Rothenberger wrote: I'd like to package libkate[1] in preparation for packaging the newest version of vor

Re: gcc4: next release (Dave Korn we need you)

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 10:22:17AM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:58 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Unfortunately, it sounds like we've stepped into the middle of a dispute >> between the mingw folks and the mingw64 folks. Maybe the best thing for >> us to do would

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:58 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > Unfortunately, it sounds like we've stepped into the middle of a dispute > between the mingw folks and the mingw64 folks. Maybe the best thing for > us to do would be to decide to use only one or the other but not both. It does seem t

Re: [ITP] libkate - Karaoke codec

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 09:44, Yaakov S wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 10:19 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > So, is that ok to upload or are you going to change that first? > > It's not wrong, just cleaner for the maintainer, that's all. Thanks, yes, that's how I understood it. I'm just asking if David wan

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 10:49, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:43:49PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >Ok, that's something I can live with. I don't understand the notion to > >keep _WIN32_WINNT at 0x0400 anyway. The idea of this value is to be set > >manually if I *don't* want modern

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:43:49PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >Ok, that's something I can live with. I don't understand the notion to >keep _WIN32_WINNT at 0x0400 anyway. The idea of this value is to be set >manually if I *don't* want modern functions, but the default should be >to allow *all

Re: [ITP] libkate - Karaoke codec

2010-07-07 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 10:19 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > So, is that ok to upload or are you going to change that first? It's not wrong, just cleaner for the maintainer, that's all. Yaakov

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 22:04, JonY wrote: > On 7/7/2010 21:59, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Jul 7 21:19, JonY wrote: > >>On 7/7/2010 20:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>>On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/ming

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread JonY
On 7/7/2010 21:59, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 7 21:19, JonY wrote: On 7/7/2010 20:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* sysroot idea. However, I don't like the

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Kai Tietz
2010/7/7 Corinna Vinschen : > On Jul  7 21:19, JonY wrote: >> On 7/7/2010 20:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> >>Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* >> >>sysroot idea.  However, I don't like the i

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 21:19, JonY wrote: > On 7/7/2010 20:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >>Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* > >>sysroot idea. However, I don't like the idea in the least to keep > >>two d

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 08:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* > >sysroot idea. However, I don't like the idea in the least to keep > >two different versions of w32api around.

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread JonY
On 7/7/2010 20:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* sysroot idea. However, I don't like the idea in the least to keep two different versions of w32api around. It's o

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >Oh, and, talking about /opt or /usr, I'd prefer the above /usr/mingw* >sysroot idea. However, I don't like the idea in the least to keep >two different versions of w32api around. It's one target, so we should >have one set of head

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 7 08:08, Charles Wilson wrote: > [accidentally posted to the main list; re-sent here] > > On 7/6/2010 10:35 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 22:07 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> I'd want to check with Corinna on this but I am mildly opposed to putting > >> this

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Charles Wilson
[accidentally posted to the main list; re-sent here] On 7/6/2010 10:35 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 22:07 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> I'd want to check with Corinna on this but I am mildly opposed to putting >> this in /opt. I don't think it makes sense there. But

Re: [ITP] libkate - Karaoke codec

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 6 15:41, David Rothenberger wrote: > On 7/6/2010 2:55 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 11:19 -0700, David Rothenberger wrote: > >> I'd like to package libkate[1] in preparation for packaging the > >> newest version of vorbis-tools. > >> > >> libkate is included in Fedo

Re: gcc4: next release

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 6 21:35, Yaakov S wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 22:07 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > I'd want to check with Corinna on this but I am mildly opposed to putting > > this in /opt. I don't think it makes sense there. But I haven't been > > following closely, though. Where does Debian

Re: [RFU] libao-1.0.0-1

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 6 10:59, David Rothenberger wrote: > Please leave 0.8.8-1 as previous. > > The new version introduces libao4, so please move the libao2 package > to the _obsolete category. Done. > wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ > http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin/libao/setup.hint \ > ht

Re: [RFU] libvorbis-1.3.1-1

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 6 10:41, David Rothenberger wrote: > Please remove 1.2.0-2 and leave 1.2.3-1 as the previous version. > > wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ > http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin/libvorbis/setup.hint \ > > http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin/libvorbis/libvorbisfi

Re: [RFU] libogg-1.2.0-1

2010-07-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 6 10:24, David Rothenberger wrote: > Please delete 1.1.3-1 and leave 1.1.4-1 as the previous version. > > wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ > http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin/libogg/setup.hint \ > > http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin/libogg/libogg0/setup.hin