[DEAD THREAD] Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-02-02 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Daniel B. wrote: > [snip] The thread is dead. Long live the thread! Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-02-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 12:43:40PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: >Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >>... >>>Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user. >> >> >>Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it, thus >>that's his consent. > >Not quite. > >

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-02-02 Thread Daniel B.
Andrew DeFaria wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ... Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user. Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it, thus that's his consent. Not quite. Try clicking on the root installer node to specify to install everything. You get

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-12 Thread Clemson, Chris
[ ] Offended. Think about the children! [x] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about how negative this list is now? -- The content of this e-mail is confidential, may contain privileged material and is intended s

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-10 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Oh for the love of me, DeFaria: Actually I don't love you at all. [snip] You snipped the good stuff. So are you a lawyer or a potty mouthed junior high-school sys admin? We are dying to know! Please do not try to express a false legal opinion to justify a faulty persona

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-10 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Oh for the love of me, DeFaria: [snip] > >> Please do not try to express a false legal opinion to justify a > >> faulty personal one. > > > > I am expressing no legal opinion. I am merely stating the > obvious: if > > there's no potty-mouth there to offend, nobody can be > offended by the > >

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: -Original Message- From: Daniel Reed Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:51 PM To: Gary R. Van Sickle Subject: RE: Obscene content in cygwin file. On 2005-01-08T17:57-0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ) - The limericks in question are of interest only to junior

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel Reed > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:51 PM > To: Gary R. Van Sickle > Subject: RE: Obscene content in cygwin file. > > On 2005-01-08T17:57-0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > ) - The limericks in question are of interest only

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Francis Litterio
Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Francis Litterio wrote: > >> Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> >>> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >>> > Cygwin already provides the content. Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user. >>> >>> Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Francis Litterio wrote: Andrew DeFaria wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Cygwin already provides the content. Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user. Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it, thus that's his consent. The user does not know he is giving

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Joshua Kolden
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene content? This is not the question. Yes, it is. Arbitrary pronouncement, in light of this I see no flaw in my reasoning. The content exists, it has already been provided. "Should

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Francis Litterio
Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >>> Cygwin already provides the content. >> >> Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user. > > Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it, thus that's his > consent. The user does not know he is giving cons

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-09 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 06:20:45PM +0100, Volker Bandke wrote: > BTW, my computer randomly selected the tagline below. Is it > obscene? Should I burn my Laptop (she wouldn't like that, I am > sure) > Sex without love is an empty experience, but, as empty experiences > go, it's one of the best. -

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Cygwin already provides the content. Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user. Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it, thus that's his consent. You have almost completely misstated my argument. Allow me to restate it in conve

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> -Original Message- > From: Volker Bandke > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:03 PM > To: Gary R. Van Sickle > Subject: RE: Obscene content in cygwin file. [snip] > >But why aren't you putting fortune-o's in your siggy as well? > > I am not? [snip

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Kolden > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:31 PM > To: Gary R. Van Sickle > Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. > > > The questi

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Joshua Kolden
There is also the issue of legal risk. Is the material illegal in any country (which would cause obvious difficulty for any user or maintainer in such countries) and do any of these countries apply their laws extra territorially (which might cause problems to anyone visiting a country with an

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Joshua Kolden wrote: Andrew DeFaria wrote: Joshua Kolden wrote: You argue that it should, because you asses some of the content as obscene, ... Joshua! How could continue to put forth obscene and offensive filth onto the Internet, even as a typo! ;-) You're only giving Gary more ammunition! Oh s

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Joshua Kolden
Andrew DeFaria wrote: Joshua Kolden wrote: You argue that it should, because you asses some of the content as obscene, ... Joshua! How could continue to put forth obscene and offensive filth onto the Internet, even as a typo! ;-) You're only giving Gary more ammunition! Oh shit I'm sorry. I apo

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Joshua Kolden wrote: You argue that it should, because you asses some of the content as obscene, ... Joshua! How could continue to put forth obscene and offensive filth onto the Internet, even as a typo! ;-) You're only giving Gary more ammunition! -- I put contact lenses in my dog's eyes. They

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Gerrit P. Haase (who should know better) wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene content? Yes, why not? Because they're lousy with potty-mouth. IYHO I might add. Yes, it is traditional. Granted, off-color

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Joshua Kolden
The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene content? This is not the question. Cygwin already provides the content. Therefore the question is: should it be removed? That is to take action beyond that which is already available to the user. Those actions being

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Mike
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said: > > On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said: > > define 'profane' first > > Any of the limericks under discussion. Your turn. that's an example; not a definition -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe

RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for > Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.) > > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >>Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >>It's simple > >>common sense. > > > > In a world where McDonalds loses a bajillion-d

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Gerrit P. Haase (who should know better) wrote: > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this > > obscene content? > > Yes, why not? Because they're lousy with potty-mouth. > Yes, it is traditional. Granted, off-color jokes are as old as t

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said: > > > > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > > > > > Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I > don't work at a > > > > Megacorp that has whole departments devoted to rooting through > > > > peoples' files looking for reasons to f

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things > > related to Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist. > Ferinstance, > > check out the German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no > > swastikas, 'cause if ther

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> On Jan 8 01:37, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > Why would you suggest that expressing a thought, however > you might > > > disagree with it, should be illegal? > > > > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things > > related to Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ung?ltig ist.

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene content? Yes, why not? Yes, it is traditional. Yes, administrators like those kind of things. Yes, computers are not for children. Yes, because we like freedom of speech. Yes, because we like guys

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Volker Bandke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >Probably because some expressions relating to Nazism are illegal in >Germany. One of our German users would probably know this for sue. Correct. Denying that the Nazis killed million of Jews is a criminal offense. Spying on somebody else's co

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Mike
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said: > > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > > > Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I don't work at a > > > Megacorp that has whole departments devoted to rooting through > > > peoples' files looking for reasons to fire them. > > >

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to > Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist. Ferinstance, check out the > German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no swastikas, 'cause if > there were, they could

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 8 01:37, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > Why would you suggest that expressing a thought, however you > > might disagree with it, should be illegal? > > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to > Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ung?ltig ist. Ferinstance, ch

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 7 19:39, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: > > > ==> fortunes2-o <== > > Would you please have another look at my nose and put in that > > cocaine stuff > > -- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr. Giesing in > > Nuremberg trial >

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-08 Thread Arturus Magi
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: It's simple common sense. In a world where McDonalds loses a bajillion-dollar lawsuit because its coffee is hot, common sense is a thing of the past my naive friend. Actually, McDonald's lost that suit not because the idiot spilled it on her la

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-08 Thread wszumera
On 8 Jan 2005 at 1:37, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [snip] > > Why would you suggest that expressing a thought, however you > > might disagree with it, should be illegal? > > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to > Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist. Feri

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:26:26PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: ==> fortunes2-o <== Would you please have another look at my nose and put in that cocaine stuff -- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
More DeFaria: > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: > > > >> ==> fortunes2-o <== > >> Would you please have another look at my nose and put in > that cocaine > >> stuff > >> -- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr. Giesing in Nuremberg trial > > > > I

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread wszumera
On 5 Jan 2005 at 23:38, Christopher Faylor wrote: > How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? > > [ ] Offended. Think about the children! > [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. > [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about h

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 01:41:58AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:26:26PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >> >>>Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: >>> ==> fortunes2-o <== Would you please have another look at my nose

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: A number of people like hard pore cornography too. Cygwin doesn't provide that, at least not in visual form, at least not that I'm aware of. The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene content? Same reason any other piece of functionality

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:26:26PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >>Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: >> >>>==> fortunes2-o <== >>>Would you please have another look at my nose and put in that >>>cocaine stuff >>>-- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr. Gi

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Most agree that it's a packaging bug in fortune, and that the limericks file should be renamed limericks-o and ROT13'd. End of discussion. Nononono, don't you try to force your end-of-discussion values on ME! [I'm not done forcing my morals on you...] I agree that at a m

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: ==> fortunes2-o <== Would you please have another look at my nose and put in that cocaine stuff -- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr. Giesing in Nuremberg trial Is something like this even legal in Germany? Why would you

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > Most agree that it's a packaging bug in fortune, and that the > > limericks file should be renamed limericks-o and ROT13'd. > > End of discussion. > > Nononono, don't you try to force your end-of-discussion values on ME! Heh... On most other mess

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Dave Korn wrote: They *are* going into newsagents, pulling Playboy off the shelves, opening it up, reading it (probably hypocritically enjoying it too), and then whining about how offended they are and demanding that the entire world be made conform to their personal tastes and beliefs. It's in

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > A number of people like them. > > A number of people like hard pore cornography too. Cygwin doesn't provide > that, at least not in visual form, at least not that I'm aware of. > > The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide thi

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Jon Lambert wrote: > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for > providing > > the profanity at all? > > > > Hello? > > > > Anybody? > > Apparently some distros have split off the package into parts like > fortune - the program with no data > fo

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for providing the profanity at all? Hello? Anybody? Apparently some distros have split off the package into parts like fortune - the program with no data fortune-min - the quotes fortune-off - the stuff that'd ma

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Raye Raskin
- Original Message - From: "Gary R. Van Sickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: RE: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reason fo

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for > providing > > the profanity at all? > > A number of people like them. > > Best, > > Rodrigo A number of people like hard pore cornography too. Cygwin doesn't provide that, at

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Raye Raskin
- Original Message - From: "Rodrigo de Salvo Braz" To: "Gary R. Van Sickle" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: RE: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reas

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for providing the > profanity at all? A number of people like them. Best, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/

RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Jon A. Lambert might have said: > > > Mike wrote: > > > > > >Since you must *ask* for the 'rude' version of fortune > (fortune -o) > > >before you get any of the alleged offensive material, then > what's the > > >problem? > > > > @ fortune > > sdesc: "Print a random, ho

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> Most agree that it's a packaging bug in fortune, and that the > limericks file should be renamed limericks-o and ROT13'd. > End of discussion. Nononono, don't you try to force your end-of-discussion values on ME! I agree that at a minimum, the obfuscation you describe is absolutely required.

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote: > ==> fortunes2-o <== > Would you please have another look at my nose and put in that > cocaine stuff > -- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr. Giesing in > Nuremberg trial > Is something like this even legal in Germany? -- Gar

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
The David Korn who is not the Korn Shell guy wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > > Sent: 07 January 2005 14:52 > > > Business issues are not the point here, though. My issue is that I > > grant others the right to be offended by the typ

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I don't work at a > > Megacorp that has whole departments devoted to rooting through > > peoples' files looking for reasons to fire them. > > IMHO, this is the single best reason for obfuscating the > profanity

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:25:42PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >NB: Did anybody read "Fahrenheit 451" from Ray Bradbury? It's not about > >jokes in the first place, but somehow this discussion reminds me > >of the book in a fatal way. >

RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Robb, Sam
> Yes but it *can* work just after you install it but before > you ever run > it! This part seems like a disclaimer if I've ever saw one: > > -oChoose only from potentially offensive aphorisms. Please, > please, >please request a potentially offensive fortune if > and onl

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Jon A. Lambert wrote: Mike wrote: I would have been better informed about the nature of the package. How eloquent. Try 'man fortune'. man fortune doesn't work until after you've already downloaded and installed the offensive material on your machine. Yes but it *can* work just after you install it

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Mike wrote: I would have been better informed about the nature of the package. How eloquent. Try 'man fortune'. man fortune doesn't work until after you've already downloaded and installed the offensive material on your machine. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Mike
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Jon A. Lambert might have said: > Mike wrote: > > > >Since you must *ask* for the 'rude' version of fortune (fortune -o) > >before you get any of the alleged offensive material, then what's the > >problem? > > @ fortune > sdesc: "Print a random, hopefully interesting, adage"

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Mike wrote: Since you must *ask* for the 'rude' version of fortune (fortune -o) before you get any of the alleged offensive material, then what's the problem? @ fortune sdesc: "Print a random, hopefully interesting, adage" category: Games requires: cygwin The problem is that it doesn't inform the u

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Williams, Gerald S \(Jerry\)
OK, anybody still reading this thread probably already knows how to do this, but just in case, here's what you need to do to clean up your fortune files (other than just deleting them): First, make sure you have the tools you need and double-check that the "offensive" files are in plaintext: $ ls

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Mike
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Peter A. Castro might have said: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > On Jan 7 01:28, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > > Right now I'm looking at the debian packages instead: > > > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortune-mod > > > http://packa

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: 07 January 2005 14:52 > Business issues are not the point here, though. My issue is that I > grant others the right to be offended by the type of language we're > talking about. It is a given that there are

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Raye Raskin > Sent: 07 January 2005 17:23 > Hey, Christopher, if you want to see something *really* offensive, > just take a look at this: > > ** > > This e-mail tra

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jan 7 01:28, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > Right now I'm looking at the debian packages instead: > > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortune-mod > > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortunes-bofh-excuses > > > > which

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Raye Raskin
Expletive deleted. Well, thanks! That is in perfect keeping with the rest of this thread. Just imagine the consequences if you hadn't deleted that expletive. We'd have another long thread about whether the cygwin mailing list should be censored. And then, of course, there's the children. ;-) Hey,

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Francis Litterio
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I don't work at a Megacorp > that has whole departments devoted to rooting through peoples' files looking > for reasons to fire them. IMHO, this is the single best reason for obfuscating the profanity with rot13. -- Fran

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Terry Dabbs wrote: I worked at a division headquarters of large company, where we had hundreds of people who would log into their email account on the VAX. When logging in you would see a message of the day. The guy administering this got tired of the same old boring messages and started rotati

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Terry Dabbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:52 AM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:22:32AM -0500, Brian Bruns wrote: >> >> Personally, I thought that them doing this was a sign of a more >&

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:40:35PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jan 7 01:28, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: >> Right now I'm looking at the debian packages instead: >> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortune-mod >> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortunes-bofh-excus

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Reini Urban
Kal Dee schrieb: Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... phpwiki optionally uses fortune to fill in fresh pages with some stupid quotes. nobody ever so far complained about those limericks. phpwiki pages are publicly accessabl

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Chuck
Andrew DeFaria wrote: Yeah, it does. For the first time in history, there are now two lawyers for every human on the planet. Lawyers subsist almost entirely on a diet of lawsuits. Funny, I thought they ate food like the rest of us... Actually, when you think about it, it's impossible for that s

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:25:42PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >NB: Did anybody read "Fahrenheit 451" from Ray Bradbury? It's not about >jokes in the first place, but somehow this discussion reminds me >of the book in a fatal way. I read the book but I don't remember it too well. I've

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:22:32AM -0500, Brian Bruns wrote: >> >> Personally, I thought that them doing this was a sign of a more >> innocent time, where we didn't have to worry about every single >> word that came out of our mouth (or keyboard). >> >> Seriously guy, your type is one of the primar

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:04:49PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: >Expletive deleted. Well, thanks! That is in perfect keeping with the rest of this thread. Just imagine the consequences if you hadn't deleted that expletive. We'd have another long thread about whether the cygwin mailing list should

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Williams, Gerald S \(Jerry\)
> [ ] Offended. Think about the children! > [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. > [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about how > negative this list is now? > [x] Not offended. Clean it up anyway. It's unprofessional > in the extreme and can only r

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen > Sent: 07 January 2005 11:44 > To: cygwin; cygwin-talk > Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. > > On Jan 7 06:35, Zachary Uram wrote: > > Argh please enough with the pedantic and

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 7 06:35, Zachary Uram wrote: > Argh please enough with the pedantic and infantile America/American > bashing. It's disgusting. Everyone act like mature adults PLEASE! The whole discussion isn't exactly mature. Time to move the discussion to cygwin-talk, I guess. I've set the Reply-To acc

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 7 01:28, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > Right now I'm looking at the debian packages instead: > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortune-mod > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/fortunes-bofh-excuses > > which generate 5 packages: fortune-mod (the binaries), > fortu

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Brian Bruns wrote: As grown adults, who are capable of making our own decisions, we need to not let our religious views, or personal views for that matter, impede on others who have their own views. How dare you try to force that point of view on us! That's moral recusrion. -- Unsubscribe in

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Hughes, Bill
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > NB: Did anybody read "Fahrenheit 451" from Ray Bradbury? > It's not about > jokes in the first place, but somehow this discussion reminds me > of the book in a fatal way. Me too, it also reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron". Bill -- ___

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Zachary Uram
Argh please enough with the pedantic and infantile America/American bashing. It's disgusting. Everyone act like mature adults PLEASE! Zach On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:29:03 +0100, Corinna Vinschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 6 21:18, Charles Wilson wrote: > > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > >

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Geoffrey KRETZ
The political correctness brainwashing machine has done its job quite well, AFAICS. Well, let's face it, I'm a woman. I'm by definition one of the disadvantaged groups of the society. The joke is this, I'm not at all offended by offensive jokes. I don't have to laugh if I don't like the joke, b

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 6 21:18, Charles Wilson wrote: > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > >How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? > > > > [ ] Offended. Think about the children! > > [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. > > [ ] Don't care. Can we go

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 6 20:03, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Ah jeez deFaria: > > As an atheist I always wonder why christians can "turn the > > other cheek" > > but cannot seem to muster how to turn their eyes away! > > As a thinking man, I always wonder why atheists: > > 1. Hate Christianity, yet harbor no

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-07 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:43:55PM -0800, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:47:35PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:40:16PM -0800, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:26:08PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > >>

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:28:26PM -0500, "Jon A. Lambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >I made no effort to find Cygwinized profanity. I stumbled across a > >program named "fortune" one day, which I was told printed out corny > >sayings etc, and installed it. Then I

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Brian Bruns
> > Personally, I thought that them doing this was a sign of a more > innocent time, where we didn't have to worry about every single > word that came out of our mouth (or keyboard). > > Seriously guy, your type is one of the primary reasons why the > internet is getting - its not quite there yet,

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Raye Raskin
Huh? The name "fortune" is close to what it does. It sort of displays fortune cookie like stuff. Labelling a program like grep with a English word that has no bearing on its functionality is not a correct analogy. Sorry my remarks went over your head. I don't think a filthy limerick is in any w

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Edward Peschko
> > That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. > > Certainly the people who included them in fortune thought otherwise. > > > > If they had thought otherwise, they wouldn't have included them in the first > place. As a licensed nerd mind-reader, I can tell you exactly the thought >

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Then you have no sense of self-worth. Sorry to hear that. 1. ? 2. Kiss my fortune-o, DeFaria. Now I'm sure you have little self-worth... This has nothing to do with what year it is. Yeah, it does. For the first time in history, there are now two lawyers for every human on

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. > > Certainly the people who included them in fortune thought otherwise. > > If they had thought otherwise, they wouldn't have included them in the first > place. As a licensed nerd mind-read

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Raye Raskin wrote: The problem seems simple to me. A filthy Limerick is not a Fortune. The program is misnamed. Call it something else or just put fortunes in it. alias limerick="fortune -o" -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.c

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 07:30:13PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: >>Huh? The name "fortune" is close to what it does. It sort of displays >>fortune cookie like stuff. Labelling a program like grep with a English >>word that has no bearing on its functionality is not a correct analogy. > >Sorry my rem

RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > >> Any company firing me for "creating a hostile work > environment" for > >> such a matter as this is, in my book, not a company I wish to work > >> for. YMMV. > > > > Nor I. In fact, I doubt many would disagree. But then, many have > > mouths to feed, and may

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Raye Raskin
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 07:12:57PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: - Original Message - From: "Chr

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