On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 01:25:36PM -0400, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:31 PM:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 03:24:33PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> On Mar 18 21:47, Dan Kegel wrote:
--- snip ---
9. Deploying
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Christopher Faylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, I think 9.3 suggests a disagreement
Yes, it accurately captures the disagreement that
the Cygwin maintainers have with users that want to do this.
Your replacement text isn't clear enough about
the fact th
Christopher Faylor wrote on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:31 PM:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 03:24:33PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> On Mar 18 21:47, Dan Kegel wrote:
>>> --- snip ---
>>>
>>> 9. Deploying Cygwin
>>>
>>> 9.1 I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
>>> s
> What is stow?
http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/
Available as a Cygwin package.
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On 3/19/08, Andrew Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * When I want to test installing something myself for which there is
> > no cygwin package supplied, and I don't want to break anything (nor am
> > I able to backup the current cygwin root tree)
>
> We have /usr/local or /opt for that. Fur
Dave Korn wrote:
> Also don't forget to shutdown any running services when swapping over.
Right, implicit in all of this is you shut down all instances of any
open programs or files from one tree before switching to the other.
Brian
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 04:25:36PM -, Dave Korn wrote:
>Brian wrote on 19 March 2008 16:09:
>
>> NightStrike wrote:
>>
>> > If there are any ideas on how to make that work, I'd love to know how
>> > (perhaps by keeping the two repositories in synch somehow?)
>>
>> I do this all the time, it's
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 03:24:33PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Mar 18 21:47, Dan Kegel wrote:
>> --- snip ---
>>
>> 9. Deploying Cygwin
>>
>> 9.1 I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
>> sites. How can I do this without conflicting with any Cygwin
>> installed b
Brian wrote on 19 March 2008 16:09:
> NightStrike wrote:
>
> > If there are any ideas on how to make that work, I'd love to know how
> > (perhaps by keeping the two repositories in synch somehow?)
>
> I do this all the time, it's trivial. You don't have to keep them in
> sync, they can be total
NightStrike wrote:
> If there are any ideas on how to make that work, I'd love to know how
> (perhaps by keeping the two repositories in synch somehow?)
I do this all the time, it's trivial. You don't have to keep them in
sync, they can be totally different versions. "umount -A" (create a
mount
On Mar 19 08:08, Dan Kegel wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Corinna Vinschen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's quite close, especially the answer to 9.3 :)
> > Care to create a matching docbook entry for the FAQ?
>
> I can give it a whirl. Might take me a while, though... where
>
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Corinna Vinschen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's quite close, especially the answer to 9.3 :)
> Care to create a matching docbook entry for the FAQ?
I can give it a whirl. Might take me a while, though... where
is the FAQ source, again?
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> * When I want to test installing something myself for which there is
> no cygwin package supplied, and I don't want to break anything (nor am
> I able to backup the current cygwin root tree)
We have /usr/local or /opt for that. Furthermore you can use stow to easily
install and uninstall test p
On Mar 18 21:47, Dan Kegel wrote:
> --- snip ---
>
> 9. Deploying Cygwin
>
> 9.1 I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
> sites. How can I do this without conflicting with any Cygwin
> installed by the user?
>
> A. Third party developers who wish to use Cygwin should
On 3/19/08, Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't assume that everyone who asks the question
> is trying to cheat or bend the rules; I'm a pretty fierce
It is true -- not everyone who wants multiple cygwins installed is a
software packager trying to profit off of cygwin. I have found it
be
> From: Dan Kegel
>
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > I assume that they are either trying to 1) cheat, 2) bend
> the rules,
> > 3) not spend any time whatsoever worrying about the problem, or 4)
> > become annoyed because they have thought about it for
> thirty seconds
> > and it seems li
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> I assume that they are either trying to 1) cheat, 2) bend the rules, 3)
> not spend any time whatsoever worrying about the problem, or 4) become
> annoyed because they have thought about it for thirty seconds and it
> seems like we're purposely trying to punish them.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 09:14:21PM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote:
>:-)
>
>Seriously, though, something belongs in the FAQ
>about this stuff, doesn't it?My third draft was
>only one quarter satire; most of it was pretty straight
>up. I can redraft it without the satire if you like.
>Don't assume that
:-)
Seriously, though, something belongs in the FAQ
about this stuff, doesn't it?My third draft was
only one quarter satire; most of it was pretty straight
up. I can redraft it without the satire if you like.
Don't assume that everyone who asks the question
is trying to cheat or bend the rule
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:30:43PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> Adam Thompson wrote:
>> On 18/03/2008, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>> So, we DON'T WANT people doing this. What we actually want a 3PP to do
>>> is check if there is a version of cygwin installed and use the installed
>>> ver
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 05:37:09PM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote:
>OK, third draft:
>
>Q. I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
>sites. How can I do this without conflicting with any Cygwin
>installed by the user?
>
>A. Third party developers who wish to use Cygwin should check
Adam Thompson wrote:
On 18/03/2008, Christopher Faylor wrote:
So, we DON'T WANT people doing this. What we actually want a 3PP to do
is check if there is a version of cygwin installed and use the installed
version if it is a newer or conditionally upgrade if it is not.
The problem with t
OK, third draft:
Q. I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
sites. How can I do this without conflicting with any Cygwin
installed by the user?
A. Third party developers who wish to use Cygwin should check if
there is a version of cygwin installed and use the installed
v
On 18/03/2008, Christopher Faylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, we DON'T WANT people doing this. What we actually want a 3PP to do
> is check if there is a version of cygwin installed and use the installed
> version if it is a newer or conditionally upgrade if it is not.
>
The problem wi
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According to Dan Kegel on 3/18/2008 6:15 PM:
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> You somehow managed to get part of the message while tanking on the rest.
|
| OK, how's this look:
|
| Q. I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
| s
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You somehow managed to get part of the message while tanking on the rest.
OK, how's this look:
Q. I want to bundle Cygwin with a product, and ship it to customer
sites. How can I do this without conflicting with any Cygwin
installed by the user?
A. Cygwin is not d
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:15:58PM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote:
>The last company I worked for tried bundling Cygwin (with sources, natch)
>as part of a product. Predictably (to those who have tried this),
>this caused big problems because it conflicted with any Cygwin
>installed on customers' machines
The last company I worked for tried bundling Cygwin (with sources, natch)
as part of a product. Predictably (to those who have tried this),
this caused big problems because it conflicted with any Cygwin
installed on customers' machines.
Looking at the archives, I see at least a couple other peopl
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