Re: Computer Science and sub-projects

2024-10-23 Thread José Isaías Cabrera via Cygwin
On Friday, October 18, 2024 05:16 PM, Brian Inglis expressed: > Problem is we are all volunteers on the project, so answers, replies, support, > depend on whether anyone has enough spare time to do analysis or diagnosis and > provide feedback, over what we have available to work on libraries, utili

Re: Computer Science and sub-projects

2024-10-18 Thread Brian Inglis via Cygwin
rogrammers need... decades ago someone doing Computer Science at university probably was taking it because they were the type of person that had already played around with a home computer for hours, and knew a bit about what worked and what didn't, and lapped up the knowledge a formal course

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-18 Thread Eliot Moss via Cygwin
read an NSF report titled something like "Towards a Pump, Not a Filter." What you describe strikes me as a drastic filter. The reason we need "pumps" is to improve gender, ethnic, etc., diversity in computer science and related areas. This is not "just" being fai

Re: Computer Science and sub-projects

2024-10-18 Thread Mark Aitchison via Cygwin
a musical instrument for quite a while to do it well, and they need honest feedback (after they get to the level of experience they can take it). I think projects/mailing lists like this are pretty close to the essence of what budding programmers need... decades ago someone doing Computer

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-18 Thread matthew patton via Cygwin
On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 02:09:31 PM EDT, Jim Garrison via Cygwin wrote: > Most university courses in "software engineering" don't begin to cover > the actual knowledge base and, more importantly, internal mental > processes, discipline and curiosity required to do quality software My 2

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-18 Thread marki via Cygwin
Very very interesting discussion. Nowadays many problems seem to be solved by adding another layer of indirection/abstraction which likely absorbs a lot of the increasing processing power, available memory etc. introduced by each new generation of hardware. Eventually, the sheer number of layer

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-18 Thread José Isaías Cabrera via Cygwin
On Friday, October 18, 2024 02:08 PM, Jim Garrison expressed: > I have an analogy. Coding is like playing the recorder (fipple-flute, > "English flute", etc). Any 6-year-old can learn the fingerings well > enough to carry a tune, but drive to insanity anybody within earshot. > Learning to code

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-18 Thread Jim Garrison via Cygwin
On 10/17/2024 10:06, matthew patton via Cygwin wrote: On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 11:07:50 PM EDT, Mike Yearwood via Cygwin wrote: The education of and practice of software is glaringly lax and we have the collective power to fix it. ahem, Microsoft would like to enter the chat... App

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-17 Thread matthew patton via Cygwin
On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 11:07:50 PM EDT, Mike Yearwood via Cygwin wrote: > The education of and practice of software is glaringly lax and we have the > collective power to fix it. ahem, Microsoft would like to enter the chat... Apparently "unlimited" funds doesn't help either. I'm go

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-16 Thread Mike Yearwood via Cygwin
The education of and practice of software is glaringly lax and we have the collective power to fix it. On Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 10:42 p.m. Eliot Moss wrote: > On 10/16/2024 6:42 PM, Mike Yearwood via Cygwin wrote: > > I took over a 3 year long project. The previous programmer painted > himself > >

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-16 Thread Eliot Moss via Cygwin
On 10/16/2024 6:42 PM, Mike Yearwood via Cygwin wrote: I took over a 3 year long project. The previous programmer painted himself into a corner and found me. I showed my work to the client. The other programmer was retiring. In 4 months, I rebuilt his 3 years work. During the next 8 months, I fin

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-16 Thread Sam Edge via Cygwin
On 16/10/2024 23:32, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: [snip] I couldn't have put it better Brian, especially regarding grasp of basic grammar and ability to provide semantic content. But you're just feeding the trolls. ;-) -- Sam Edge OpenPGP_0x8AC2CEBF54528E30.asc Description: OpenPGP publ

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-16 Thread Mike Yearwood via Cygwin
as maintainers not set forth by their > graduating universities. > > Ability to communicate clearly in English is a prerequsite. > I suspect all software has maintainers who have been set forth in their > diplomas > by their graduating universities. > > > I am a 2000 comput

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-16 Thread Brian Inglis via Cygwin
their diplomas by their graduating universities. I am a 2000 computer science graduate. Do you mean high school, community college, university, postgrad, or something else? With straight A's in prep school I disapprove of the lists on Cygwin Who cares what you got in elementary scho

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-15 Thread Eliot Moss via Cygwin
On 10/15/2024 6:38 PM, Greywolf via Cygwin wrote: On 2024-10-15 15:31, matthew patton via Cygwin wrote: Then again why does anyone care about IceWM? If you want an X11 it's hard not to suggest just going to WSL and be done with it. Lots of XClients already. Except that, unless I am mistaken,

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-15 Thread Greywolf via Cygwin
On 2024-10-15 15:31, matthew patton via Cygwin wrote: Then again why does anyone care about IceWM? If you want an X11 it's hard not to suggest just going to WSL and be done with it. Lots of XClients already. Except that, unless I am mistaken, WSL runs in its own window and does not integrate

Re: Computer Science

2024-10-15 Thread matthew patton via Cygwin
> I've always wondered why software has maintainers not set forth by their > graduating universities. because a CompSci degree != competence in anything. Prove your mettle by picking up a useful package off the abandoned list (is this even current?) https://cygwin.com/cygwin-pkg-maint Personall

Computer Science

2024-10-15 Thread Jonathan Chapman-Moore via Cygwin
I've always wondered why software has maintainers not set forth by their graduating universities. I am a 2000 computer science graduate. With straight A's in prep school I disapprove of the lists on Cygwin As I would like to be a IceWM maintainer but not with every other stock boy i