Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-21 Thread John Cowan
up (no worse than being asked for a sudo password) and the fact that the install runs detached, so you cannot have a script that installs something before going on unless you take special pains to wait for the installation to complete. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-15 Thread John Cowan
Microsoft would give Corinna more > support with fork and acl. That would entail reimplementing fork() for Win32. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org The internet is a web of tiny tyrannies giving an illusion of anarchy. --David Rush

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-15 Thread John Cowan
what "moral equivalent" means, either say so or look it up. *plonk* -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org Nobody expects the RESTifarian Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise ... surprise and tedium ... tedium and surprise Our two weapons

Re: Conflict between Cygwin 1.7 and Ubuntu for Windows 14316

2016-04-15 Thread John Cowan
d my work machines too when I get to pick their names (not often, nowadays). Also, it makes people laugh. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org Is a chair finely made tragic or comic? Is the portrait of Mona Lisa good if I desire to see it? Is the bust of Sir Phil

Re: Conflict between Cygwin 1.7 and Ubuntu for Windows 14316

2016-04-14 Thread John Cowan
reating strange ACEs that make files it creates inaccessible to UoW. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org Clear? Huh! Why a four-year-old child could understand this report. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head or tail out of it.

Re: Conflict between Cygwin 1.7 and Ubuntu for Windows 14316

2016-04-14 Thread John Cowan
from /cygdrive/c/cygwin, which takes real time but should dispose of the problem once and for all. However, either Cygwin should be more selective about the ACEs it creates, or UoW should use SIDs somewhat more intelligently. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-14 Thread John Cowan
that is your decision for yourself, that’s perfectly fine. > However, I predict that a whole lot of people will find uses for this > technology, thereby making it “useful,” by definition. +1 -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org If you have ever wonder

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-14 Thread John Cowan
But to each their own. > Because Cygwin diff consume normal Windows paths without an issue. No doubt. But it also handles /cygdrive/c paths, the moral equivalent of /mnt/c paths, and that's what I use. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org And they pack

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-14 Thread John Cowan
t of Cygwin. More’s the pity, > because it means you’ll be incentivized to choose one or the other, > likely to Cygwin’s net detriment. Based on my CoLinux experience, I expect I'll keep Cygwin but won't use it as much as I do today. It will still be indispensable for some things

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-14 Thread John Cowan
unt operation. > At the same time, you could run any given VM and get much better options and > choices. Of course. And you could have even more options and choices with a separate Linux box. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org There are three kinds of

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-13 Thread John Cowan
Andrey Repin scripsit: > In other words, this is a useless bullshit? > No SSHD, no cron, no… nothing? Because there is no Upstart, standard Ubuntu cron will not work: "start cron" tells you that /com/ubuntu/upstart does not exist. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-13 Thread John Cowan
Andrey Repin scripsit: > In other words, this is a useless bullshit? > No SSHD, no cron, no… nothing? It's meant to be a client, not a server. I see no reason why cron should not work. I'll try it and sshd when I get home tonight, along with the icacls commands. -- John Cow

Re: Conflict between Cygwin 1.7 and Ubuntu for Windows 14316

2016-04-13 Thread John Cowan
lar methods under Win32 proper, is readable and writable by UoW. So, for example, if I unpack a tarball of source code using Cygwin tar, none of the files from the tarball are readable by UoW. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org Barry thirteen gules and argent

Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10

2016-04-13 Thread John Cowan
I just hope it does not interfere too much with my Cygwin setup, which I > expect to keep for the foreseeable future. It definitely doesn't affect Cygwin in any way. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org "Your honour puts yourself to much trouble co

Re: Conflict between Cygwin 1.7 and Ubuntu for Windows 14316

2016-04-13 Thread John Cowan
te them from the "wrong" side does file1 become readable and file2 become unreadable. This is 64-bit Windows on an NTFS file system, but 32-bit Cygwin. I'll try installing Cygwin64 tonight and seeing if that makes any difference. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Conflict between Cygwin 1.7 and Ubuntu for Windows 14316

2016-04-12 Thread John Cowan
on in cmd.exe, or in a Win32 application? This is not about file names with funny characters, either. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowanco...@ccil.org C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie,

Re: sed strips CRs

2012-02-13 Thread John Cowan
3) invoked _set_fmode(O_BINARY) all of which make "r" synonymous with "rb". Programs which don't do any of these should use "r" rather than "rt", as it is guaranteed to do the right thing for text on both Win32 and Posix systems. -- You annoy me, Rattr