Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-10-19 19:11, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 18:49, Steven Penny wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:00:12, cyg Simple wrote: >>> So says you!  The vendor portion has been agreed to be -pc- and it isn't >>> -unknown-, a patch then should be created for config.guess to match the >>> agr

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 18:49, Steven Penny wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:00:12, cyg Simple wrote: >> So says you!  The vendor portion has been agreed to be -pc- and it isn't >> -unknown-, a patch then should be created for config.guess to match the >> agreed upon vendor.  The config.guess script supplies

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Steven Penny
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:00:12, cyg Simple wrote: So says you! The vendor portion has been agreed to be -pc- and it isn't -unknown-, a patch then should be created for config.guess to match the agreed upon vendor. The config.guess script supplies the default to configure for the build and host.

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 18:21, Brian Inglis wrote: > I think the OP's problem is he knows no way to override the default and use > only > the standard ./configure && make build approach. Which works just fine btw, so there's no need to override it. > The OP could take a build config.cache and save it in /

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-10-19 15:14, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 16:00, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 10/19/2017 4:35 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> On 2017-10-19 15:02, cyg Simple wrote: On 10/19/2017 3:54 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2017-10-19 12:59, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> On 2017-10-19

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread JonY
On 10/19/2017 04:18 PM, cyg Simple wrote: > On 10/19/2017 10:18 AM, Ken Brown wrote: >> On 10/19/2017 9:19 AM, cyg Simple wrote: >>> On 10/18/2017 6:58 PM, JonY wrote: I agree with Yaakov, why does it need to change? >>> >>> See my response to Yaakov.  If you supply explicit host and buil

Re: No error messages printed out within Windows Command Prompt when shared libraries are not found

2017-10-19 Thread Luca
Sorry, I have just realized that the issue happens only when I use the "Windows Command Prompt" run by Total Commander (www.ghisler.com), while I correctly get the notification when using the "Windows Command Prompt" run from the Start Menu. This issue is actually related to Total Commander, so

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 16:00, cyg Simple wrote: > On 10/19/2017 4:35 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> On 2017-10-19 15:02, cyg Simple wrote: >>> On 10/19/2017 3:54 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: On 2017-10-19 12:59, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: >> x86_64-pc-cygwin is

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 4:35 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 15:02, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 10/19/2017 3:54 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: >>> On 2017-10-19 12:59, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: > x86_64-pc-cygwin is just not correct regardless of the lack of pas

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 15:26, cyg Simple wrote: > My assumption is because of config.guess' default. It isn't incorrect, > it is a valid assumption. You cannot have both, it is one or the other. Your assumption that the default provided by config.guess must match the one we have chosen is incorrect. Onc

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 15:02, cyg Simple wrote: > On 10/19/2017 3:54 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2017-10-19 12:59, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: x86_64-pc-cygwin is just not correct regardless of the lack of past issues. >>> >>> As I have said several times, this

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Vince Rice
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:21 PM, cyg Simple wrote: > > On 10/19/2017 4:02 PM, Vince Rice wrote: >>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:08 PM, cyg Simple wrote: >>> >>> On 10/19/2017 2:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: When you *really* need to use --build and/or --host, then you need to use x86_6

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 15:21, cyg Simple wrote: > I'm not providing the name of the package because I don't need help > configuring it and I don't want the discussion to become how to do that. This is *exactly* what this discussion *should* have been about from the beginning, because that would have been a

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 4:21 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 14:08, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 10/19/2017 2:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> >>> When you *really* need to use --build and/or --host, then you need to >>> use x86_64-pc-cygwin, as that is our chosen name. >> >> Then config.guess needs

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 4:02 PM, Vince Rice wrote: >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:08 PM, cyg Simple wrote: >> >> On 10/19/2017 2:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> >>> When you *really* need to use --build and/or --host, then you need to >>> use x86_64-pc-cygwin, as that is our chosen name. >> >> Then config.gues

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 14:08, cyg Simple wrote: > On 10/19/2017 2:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> >> When you *really* need to use --build and/or --host, then you need to >> use x86_64-pc-cygwin, as that is our chosen name. > > Then config.guess needs to change to match the chosen name!! No, it doesn't.

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 3:54 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2017-10-19 12:59, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: >>> x86_64-pc-cygwin is just not correct regardless of the lack of past issues. >> >> As I have said several times, this assertion is incorrect. You need to >> use th

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Vince Rice
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:08 PM, cyg Simple wrote: > > On 10/19/2017 2:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> >> When you *really* need to use --build and/or --host, then you need to >> use x86_64-pc-cygwin, as that is our chosen name. > > Then config.guess needs to change to match the chosen name!! >

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-10-19 12:59, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: >> x86_64-pc-cygwin is just not correct regardless of the lack of past issues. > > As I have said several times, this assertion is incorrect. You need to > use the triplet which matches the toolchain with which

Problem with Fossil version

2017-10-19 Thread Will Parsons
I've been using fossil as my SCM system of choice for some years now, and have been in the habit of synching my repositories under Cygwin with those on a remote Unix (FreeBSD) system. Recently, though, I created a new repository under FreeBSD and found I cannot clone it to Cygwin. Apparently, thi

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 2:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > > When you *really* need to use --build and/or --host, then you need to > use x86_64-pc-cygwin, as that is our chosen name. Then config.guess needs to change to match the chosen name!! Why confuse everyone? Make up your mind and choose one. I ca

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 2:59 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: >> x86_64-pc-cygwin is just not correct regardless of the lack of past issues. > > As I have said several times, this assertion is incorrect. You need to > use the triplet which matches the toolchain with whic

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 13:40, cyg Simple wrote: > x86_64-pc-cygwin is just not correct regardless of the lack of past issues. As I have said several times, this assertion is incorrect. You need to use the triplet which matches the toolchain with which you are building. For example, Fedora and RHEL all us

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 11:44, cyg Simple wrote: > On 10/19/2017 11:04 AM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> We've been building packages for 64-bit Cygwin for years now without a >> problem. Maybe you could just tell what you're trying to do and the >> problem you're seeing so that we can assist you, instead of t

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 2:37 PM, Steven Penny wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:47:29, cyg Simple wrote: >> > may we know which package ? >> > > If it refuses triplet has a strange way to use Autoconf/Automake >> > and changing the compiler seems the wrong way to solve the issue >> >> No, it doesn't matter.  D

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Steven Penny
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:47:29, cyg Simple wrote: > may we know which package ? > > If it refuses triplet has a strange way to use Autoconf/Automake > and changing the compiler seems the wrong way to solve the issue No, it doesn't matter. Delivering x86_64-pc-cygwin anything is wrong since the

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 12:41 PM, Marco Atzeri wrote: > On 19/10/2017 18:21, cyg Simple wrote: > ./configure --host=x86_64-unknown-cygwin --build=x86_64-unknown-cygwin >>> >>> >>> the correct way is >>>   ./configure >>> >> >> Normally yes, but ... >> >>> don't add what you don't need.. >> >> I wa

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 11:04 AM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-19 08:25, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Steven Penny wrote: >>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:45:11, Marco Atzeri wrote: For a regex pattern you should include both. I do not bore which one is built and distributed on my

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 19/10/2017 18:21, cyg Simple wrote: ./configure --host=x86_64-unknown-cygwin --build=x86_64-unknown-cygwin the correct way is  ./configure Normally yes, but ... don't add what you don't need.. I was trying to help a package refusing the config.guess triplet so I needed it. Regard

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 10:41 AM, Marco Atzeri wrote: > On 19/10/2017 15:17, cyg Simple wrote: >> >> > So the corrective action is to distribute GCC and friends as x86_64-unknown-cygwin-*.exe instead of x86_64-pc-cygwin-*.exe. >>> >>> Incorrect.  GCC is also fine as is. >>> >> >> No it is not

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/19/2017 10:18 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > On 10/19/2017 9:19 AM, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 10/18/2017 6:58 PM, JonY wrote: >>> I agree with Yaakov, why does it need to change? >>> >> >> See my response to Yaakov.  If you supply explicit host and build to >> configure it does not work. > > So don't

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-10-19 08:25, cyg Simple wrote: > On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Steven Penny wrote: >> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:45:11, Marco Atzeri wrote: >>> For a regex pattern you should include both. >>> I do not bore which one is built and distributed on my packages. >>> >>> E.G. on octave >>> >>> /usr/lib/octa

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 19/10/2017 15:25, cyg Simple wrote: On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Steven Penny wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:45:11, Marco Atzeri wrote: For a regex pattern you should include both. I do not bore which one is built and distributed on my packages. E.G. on octave /usr/lib/octave/site/oct/i686-pc-cyg

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 19/10/2017 15:17, cyg Simple wrote: So the corrective action is to distribute GCC and friends as x86_64-unknown-cygwin-*.exe instead of x86_64-pc-cygwin-*.exe. Incorrect. GCC is also fine as is. No it is not! The below example should work out of the box and it doesn't. ./configur

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread Ken Brown
On 10/19/2017 9:19 AM, cyg Simple wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:58 PM, JonY wrote: I agree with Yaakov, why does it need to change? See my response to Yaakov. If you supply explicit host and build to configure it does not work. So don't do that. Specifying host is for cross-compilation. Specify

Re: git can not access remote repository anymore after cygwin+git update

2017-10-19 Thread Ronald Fischer
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 14:28, Marco Atzeri wrote: > On 19/10/2017 13:38, Ronald Fischer wrote: > > I'm using 64 Bit Cygwin on Windows 7. After upgrading Git to version > > 2.14.2 (I think I had 2.13 or 2.12 before), git can not access our > > repository anymore. Commands such as "git pull" or "gi

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Steven Penny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:45:11, Marco Atzeri wrote: >> For a regex pattern you should include both. >> I do not bore which one is built and distributed on my packages. >> >> E.G. on octave >> >> /usr/lib/octave/site/oct/i686-pc-cygwin >> /usr/lib/octave/si

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/18/2017 6:58 PM, JonY wrote: > On 10/18/2017 10:41 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> On 2017-10-18 14:10, cyg Simple wrote: >>> On 10/18/2017 1:11 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On 2017-10-18 09:05, cyg Simple wrote: > Does anyone care if a patch to config.guess changes the i*:CYGWIN*:* >>

Re: Which is it -pc- or -unknown-

2017-10-19 Thread cyg Simple
On 10/18/2017 6:41 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-10-18 14:10, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 10/18/2017 1:11 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> On 2017-10-18 09:05, cyg Simple wrote: Does anyone care if a patch to config.guess changes the i*:CYGWIN*:* filter to echo ${UNAME_MACHINE}-unkno

Re: git can not access remote repository anymore after cygwin+git update

2017-10-19 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 19/10/2017 13:38, Ronald Fischer wrote: I'm using 64 Bit Cygwin on Windows 7. After upgrading Git to version 2.14.2 (I think I had 2.13 or 2.12 before), git can not access our repository anymore. Commands such as "git pull" or "git push" result into the error fatal: Could not read from remot

git can not access remote repository anymore after cygwin+git update

2017-10-19 Thread Ronald Fischer
I'm using 64 Bit Cygwin on Windows 7. After upgrading Git to version 2.14.2 (I think I had 2.13 or 2.12 before), git can not access our repository anymore. Commands such as "git pull" or "git push" result into the error fatal: Could not read from remote repository. Please make sure you have the c