Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Paul McFerrin wrote: I've been using rxvt for years as my main terminal and just tried using minTTY and really prefer not to use it. You see I'm and old man with poor eye sight. The visual attributes of minTTY aren't the same that I use with rxvt. The Lucida Console (white foreground on blac

Questions about missing DLLs and program behvior, and symlinks to DLLs (also, a small setup recommendation)

2009-01-11 Thread rhs . cygwin
Hello! I haven't been able to find anything about this in the archives. I recently decided to replace my old Cygwin installation with a new, fresh one, so everything should be up-to-date here. [That's my recommendation: perhaps a way to make it easier to install fresh; it was necessary to rename

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Paul McFerrin
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:22:14PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: Well, it's my main terminal. I tried MinTTY and I'm not sure yet whether it will supplant rxvt for my personal use, but it shows promise. I've been using rxvt for years as my main terminal and just tried u

Re: First Pass at mintty documentation

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:18:32PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: >> @@ What "alternate screen"? @@ > > Good question. It's vt100 lingo for a second logical screen that > wholescreen apps such as editors normally use, often through the (n)curses > library. (I'm taking "wholescreen" to mean an app contr

Re: Signal handling in Win32 GUI programs

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:53:49PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: >>>I've added a thread doing 'for (;;) pause();', but unfortunately that >>>doesn't seem to do the trick. Do I need to go into Cygwin internals >>>and wait directly on the Win32 event(s) used for signals? >>sigwait() will probably work be

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:32:40PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Charles Wilson wrote: >> Later, if there is enough demand (complaints?) I can look at creating >> rxvt-W (with an alternate XAPPRES name) that is windows-only (maybe with >> the external libW11, maybe just like at present with the

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 03:22:14PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Just to contribute something useful: Chuck Wilson, if you are reading >> this, am I correct in assuming that you don't enjoy maintaining the >> Windows version of rxvt? > >Well, it's my main terminal. I tr

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: parrot-0.8.2-1 with parrot-perl6 and parrot-languages

2009-01-11 Thread Reini Urban
Charles Wilson schrieb: Reini Urban wrote: Thanks to all our contributors for making this possible, and our sponsors for supporting this project. Our next release is 20 January 2009, where all the cygwin patches will be merged into trunk. Until then cygwin is still the only parrot release which

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Charles Wilson wrote: Later, if there is enough demand (complaints?) I can look at creating rxvt-W (with an alternate XAPPRES name) that is windows-only (maybe with the external libW11, maybe just like at present with the builtin libW11) -- but no split-personality. How about creating a rxvt-W

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: postgresql-8.2.11-1

2009-01-11 Thread Reini Urban
I've updated postgresql and all its subpackages from 8.2.9-1 to 8.2.11-1. What's new: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/release-8-2-11.html http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/release-8-2-10.html Migration to Version 8.2.11 A dump/restore is not required for those running 8.2.

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Charles Wilson
Andy Koppe wrote: > How about just providing Start Menu shortcuts for all installed > terminals in a "Cygwin" folder, much like Yaakov has done in MinTTY's > cygports package? The user could always copy them to more easily > accessible places as needed, or just rely on the recently-used list. That

Re: First Pass at mintty documentation

2009-01-11 Thread Matt Wozniski
On 1/11/09, Andy Koppe wrote: > Lee D.Rothstein wrote: > >= Is there an alternate screen toggle in 'mintty' as there is > > in 'xterm'? > > > > I didn't know xterm actually had a UI for this. Do people find this useful? If we're talking about switching between the regular screen and the

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: mingw-runtime-3.15.2-1

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Sutcliffe
I've made a new version of the mingw-runtime available for download. For a list of changes see: http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/mingw/ChangeLog?rev=1.427&cvsroot=src To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downl

Re: First Pass at mintty documentation

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Lee D.Rothstein wrote: Hi, I've taken a first pass at distilling my experience with 'mintty' and the [ahem] discussion, here, about it into a text file (see attachment mintty.{h}) Thanks, that's a nice surprise! Speed It's quite funny, I didn't realise that until people here pointed it o

Re: scsh-0.6.7-2: (date) fails to use local time zone after the first call

2009-01-11 Thread Reini Urban
John Russell schrieb: According the the scsh manual, (date) is supposed to return the current date in the local time zone. However, in the Cygwin scsh-0.6.7-2 package, it only works that way the first time that (date) is called. After that, it returns dates in the UTC timezone. Test script:

Re: MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Charles Wilson wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: If so, should we consider deprecating rxvt in favor of MinTTY when MinTTY becomes a real package? If not, there is no harm in keeping two packages in the distribution. I was just trying to lighten your load if you were interested. I'd lean towa

First Pass at mintty documentation

2009-01-11 Thread Lee D.Rothstein
Hi, I've taken a first pass at distilling my experience with 'mintty' and the [ahem] discussion, here, about it into a text file (see attachment mintty.{h}) If there is an affinity to it, I would be happy to plug this all into a valid man template. For my votes on 'mintty': * I love it the way

Re: Signal handling in Win32 GUI programs

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
I've added a thread doing 'for (;;) pause();', but unfortunately that doesn't seem to do the trick. Do I need to go into Cygwin internals and wait directly on the Win32 event(s) used for signals? sigwait() will probably work better than pause. That indeed works, thank you very much! I didn't

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-11 Thread Lee D. Rothstein
newsletter wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:10:53PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Out of here... If only that was really true. cgf mmm Linux is about choice and not being forced to use a limited set of tools. If rxvt works for you than that's fine - us

MinTTY "vs" rxvt (was Re: MinTTY 0.3.3)

2009-01-11 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: > Just to contribute something useful: Chuck Wilson, if you are reading > this, am I correct in assuming that you don't enjoy maintaining the > Windows version of rxvt? Well, it's my main terminal. I tried MinTTY and I'm not sure yet whether it will supplant rxvt for my p

Re: Signal handling in Win32 GUI programs

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:57:02PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: > Christopher Faylor wrote: >> I don't know if this is what you are seeing but If you are blocked in a >> Windows function like WaitMessage or WaitForSingleObject, the signal >> will not be delivered until some random time after you leave

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:50:42PM +0100, Fredrik Staxeng wrote: >Christopher Faylor writes: > >>On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:57:19PM +0100, Fredrik Staxeng wrote: >>>It seems that rebaseall breaks emacs, but reinstalling libncurses7 >>>fixes it. >> >>That is not a Windows 7 problem. > >No, but the

Re: Signal handling in Win32 GUI programs

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Christopher Faylor wrote: I don't know if this is what you are seeing but If you are blocked in a Windows function like WaitMessage or WaitForSingleObject, the signal will not be delivered until some random time after you leave the function. Alright, that's what it is then. One way around thi

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
Christopher Faylor writes: >On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:57:19PM +0100, Fredrik Staxeng wrote: >>It seems that rebaseall breaks emacs, but reinstalling libncurses7 >>fixes it. > >That is not a Windows 7 problem. No, but the child_copy linked dll problem reappears on Windows 7. Rebaseall fixes that

Re: Signal handling in Win32 GUI programs

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:26:36PM +, Andy Koppe wrote: > Is there something special about signal handling in Win32 GUI programs? > With MinTTY, I'm finding that signals sent to it are only delivered when > writing data to the child process (i.e. when you try to kill it, it stays > open unti

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:57:19PM +0100, Fredrik Staxeng wrote: >It seems that rebaseall breaks emacs, but reinstalling libncurses7 >fixes it. That is not a Windows 7 problem. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problem

Signal handling in Win32 GUI programs

2009-01-11 Thread Andy Koppe
Hi, Is there something special about signal handling in Win32 GUI programs? With MinTTY, I'm finding that signals sent to it are only delivered when writing data to the child process (i.e. when you try to kill it, it stays open until a key is pressed). I guess that's fair enough in as far as

Re: find assert

2009-01-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 11 07:47, Eric Blake wrote: > According to Corinna Vinschen on 1/11/2009 2:16 AM: > > Are you proposing that Cygwin should change setting errno from ENOSHARE > > to ENOENT? ENOSHARE is only set in one single instance and is only > > explicitly requested in another. AFAICS, dropping ENOSHAR

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 10 23:56, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I know that we don't claim to support beta versions of Windows but I did > manage to grab a copy of the beta iso and install it in a virtualbox > (http://virtualbox.org/) virtual machine for playing. The system > installed smoothly and boots quickly. I

Re: find assert

2009-01-11 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Corinna Vinschen on 1/11/2009 2:16 AM: >> To some degree, it is a cygwin bug, when "n" points to "//nowhere". If >> stat("n",&st) were to fail with the standardized ENOENT, rather than the >> cygwin-specific ENOSHARE, then fts_read would

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
Fredrik Staxeng writes: >It seems that rebaseall breaks emacs, but reinstalling libncurses7 >fixes it. And now I got backspace working again. So I work on Windows 7 tomorrow! -- Fredrik Stax\"ang | rot13: s...@hcqngr.hh.fr This is all you need to know about vi: ESC : q ! RET -- Unsubscribe

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
It seems that rebaseall breaks emacs, but reinstalling libncurses7 fixes it. -- Fredrik Stax\"ang | rot13: s...@hcqngr.hh.fr This is all you need to know about vi: ESC : q ! RET -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/proble

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Robert Pendell
Fredrik Staxeng wrote: Christopher Faylor writes: Backspace dowes not work at the momemt, so you'll have to suffer all my spelling errors and greneral steeam-of-consciusness style. it's not pretty , i know, but I dont have very much time nowe. i need to restore the old drive in this machine b

Re: Did anyone download the Windows 7 beta?

2009-01-11 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
Christopher Faylor writes: Backspace dowes not work at the momemt, so you'll have to suffer all my spelling errors and greneral steeam-of-consciusness style. it's not pretty , i know, but I dont have very much time nowe. i need to restore the old drive in this machine before tomorrow so that

Re: find assert

2009-01-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 10 19:33, Eric Blake wrote: > According to Christopher Faylor on 12/30/2008 12:06 PM: > > This is apparently caused by a symlink that looks like this: > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 cgf None 6 Jul 9 2005 n -> //none > > > > I don't remember creating that symlink. Apparently I was checking

Re: MinTTY 0.3.3

2009-01-11 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Matt Wozniski wrote: What you seem to have misunderstood is that when Andy said "configure it in an x-ish way", he didn't mean "configure it with x resources like some x applications", he meant "configure it to behave like most x terminal emulators wrt selection, copying, pasting, etc". I see,