Re: FAQ on installing a build from source ?

2008-12-19 Thread fred
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: fred wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: fred wrote: I assume $make install ok? but something gone wrong, so manually what is supposed to get copied where ? dir \i686-pc-cygwin\winsup\cygwin has a cygwin0.dll, I thought there is supposed to be a cygwin1.dll

Re: FAQ on installing a build from source ?

2008-12-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:16:52AM -0500, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: > fred wrote: >> Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ >>> >>> ? >>> >>> My WAG is that you're building in the source directory which, as the FAQ >>> says, is a no-no. >>> >> ok thanks, but

Re: FAQ on installing a build from source ?

2008-12-19 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
fred wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: fred wrote: I assume $make install ok? but something gone wrong, so manually what is supposed to get copied where ? dir \i686-pc-cygwin\winsup\cygwin has a cygwin0.dll, I thought there is supposed to be a cygwin1.dll. I thought surely

Re: FAQ on installing a build from source ?

2008-12-19 Thread fred
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: fred wrote: I assume $make install ok? but something gone wrong, so manually what is supposed to get copied where ? dir \i686-pc-cygwin\winsup\cygwin has a cygwin0.dll, I thought there is supposed to be a cygwin1.dll. I thought surely there is a FA

Re: FAQ on installing a build from source ?

2008-12-19 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
fred wrote: I assume $make install ok? but something gone wrong, so manually what is supposed to get copied where ? dir \i686-pc-cygwin\winsup\cygwin has a cygwin0.dll, I thought there is supposed to be a cygwin1.dll. I thought surely there is a FAQ on this ? haven;t found it

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Another one who believes what their calendar tells them? Another one who doubts the calendar and can't do math... Then riddle me this Andrew: If this were in fact the 21st century (AKA "The Future"), But you see that's the thing. It's not AKA "The Future" - it's now.

FAQ on installing a build from source ?

2008-12-19 Thread fred
I assume $make install ok? but something gone wrong, so manually what is supposed to get copied where ? dir \i686-pc-cygwin\winsup\cygwin has a cygwin0.dll, I thought there is supposed to be a cygwin1.dll. I thought surely there is a FAQ on this ? haven;t found it though Than

Re: Windows process id

2008-12-19 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Steve Rainbird wrote: If I do the following xx & pid=$! I get the cygwin pid. Is there a way of getting the real windows pid? Not directly, no. But 'ps -W' will show you the Windows PID as well. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc.

Windows process id

2008-12-19 Thread Steve Rainbird
If I do the following xx & pid=$! I get the cygwin pid. Is there a way of getting the real windows pid? -- Steve -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Re: POP Rmail in Emacs [Attn: Emacs maintainer]

2008-12-19 Thread Ken Brown
On 12/19/2008 4:38 PM, Angelo Graziosi wrote: ...and, last but not least, yes we need a Cygwin Emacs maintainer: There *is* an official emacs maintainer, Steffen Sledz, but there's no indication that he monitors this list for emacs questions/problems. The last message I saw from him was to t

Re: noacl functionality for MS-DOS destination paths?

2008-12-19 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Lawrence Mayer wrote: On Dec 18 20:53, Lawrence Mayer wrote: Is there any way to get noacl functionality when using MS-DOS destination paths? My etc/fstab file (below) applies noacl for UNIX destination paths e.g. C:\cygwin\bin\mkdir.exe /c/foo creates directory C:\foo with NTFS default perm

Re: Re: noacl functionality for MS-DOS destination paths?

2008-12-19 Thread Lawrence Mayer
On Dec 18 20:53, Lawrence Mayer wrote: Is there any way to get noacl functionality when using MS-DOS destination paths? My etc/fstab file (below) applies noacl for UNIX destination paths e.g. C:\cygwin\bin\mkdir.exe /c/foo creates directory C:\foo with NTFS default permissions inherited from p

Re: [1.7] chmod fails with windows path

2008-12-19 Thread Glenn Serre
Good afternoon, Corinna Vinschen wrote: [...] Fixed in CVS. [...] Closing the loop: I got the cygwin update today and it works for me. Thanks! --Glenn S. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation:

Re: POP Rmail in Emacs

2008-12-19 Thread Angelo Graziosi
Ken Brown wrote: And I think Angelo has built CVS versions of emacs 23 with it Yes, I confirm. I build Emacs-23 weekly. In the last year many things have changed, and in better. Now it bootstraps in less than 20 minutes (before, more than an hour). Also, some strange bootstrap failure (which

Re: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Alex Martin wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: A few gaps that need filling before anything better than SWAGs can come your way: - Is this app a Cygwin app, No, it is a windows app. I am using cygwin primarily because I get the /dev/ttyS* devices. If you're using /dev/ttyS*, then you

Re: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Alex Martin
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: From: Alex Martin Well, I was using a port monitor to debug some of the traffic between my serial device, and my software, when I noticed the output accidentally. I am not sure when the behavior started. It used to work fine, I was using printf to debug things,

RE: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Alex Martin > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >> From: Alex Martin > >> > >> Well, I was using a port monitor to debug some of the > traffic between > >> my serial device, and my software, when I noticed the output > >> accidentally. > >> > >> I am not sure when the behavior started. It use

Re: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Alex Martin
Matt Wozniski wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: From: Alex Martin Hello, I have a cygwin environment, running some software I am writing to talk to some serial devices. Somehow, trying to debug why I could not see printf output to console, I ran a serial port

RE: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Alex Martin > > Well, I was using a port monitor to debug some of the traffic > between my serial device, and my software, when I noticed the > output accidentally. > > I am not sure when the behavior started. It used to work > fine, I was using printf to debug things, then I turned o

Re: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Alex Martin
Well, I was using a port monitor to debug some of the traffic between my serial device, and my software, when I noticed the output accidentally. I am not sure when the behavior started. It used to work fine, I was using printf to debug things, then I turned off all of those printf statements,

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
[Followups set to -talk due to apropos but not-necessarily-Cygwin-specific devolution of the discussion] > From: Corinna Vinschen > > On Dec 19 10:29, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > > From: Andrew DeFaria > > > > > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle

Re: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Matt Wozniski
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >> From: Alex Martin >> >> Hello, >> >> I have a cygwin environment, running some software I am >> writing to talk to some serial devices. >> >> Somehow, trying to debug why I could not see printf output to >> console, I ran a serial port s

RE: printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Alex Martin > > Hello, > > I have a cygwin environment, running some software I am > writing to talk to some serial devices. > > Somehow, trying to debug why I could not see printf output to > console, I ran a serial port sniffer and voila all of my > printf commands are writing on th

printf goes to serial port?

2008-12-19 Thread Alex Martin
Hello, I have a cygwin environment, running some software I am writing to talk to some serial devices. Somehow, trying to debug why I could not see printf output to console, I ran a serial port sniffer and voila all of my printf commands are writing on the serial port. Any idea how to fix

Re: Cygwin 1.7 domains and home directories

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 19 12:25, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > > I tested it, and it fixes the error. Nice hunting. > > > > Sure? Did it occur reliably so far and now it doesn't? I thought > > it only occurs intermittently. Maybe you could test a while longer... > > The error was occurring reliably on the first

Re: Cygwin 1.7 domains and home directories

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
> > I tested it, and it fixes the error. Nice hunting. > > Sure? Did it occur reliably so far and now it doesn't? I thought > it only occurs intermittently. Maybe you could test a while longer... The error was occurring reliably on the first, and only the first, login shell after each reboot.

Re: Cygwin 1.7 domains and home directories

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 19 12:01, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > Working (strace2): > > > > pwdgrp::load: \etc\passwd curr_lines 20308 > > > > Failing (strace1): > > > > pwdgrp::load: \etc\passwd curr_lines 520 > > > > So Cygwin thinks there are only 520 lines in the file, even though it > > knows that the filesi

Re: POP Rmail in Emacs

2008-12-19 Thread Ken Brown
On 12/19/2008 11:19 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Yes, Angelo deserves a lot of kudos for his efforts, but unfortunately much more is needed. For example, even though it is possible to build a Cygwin version now, if you are willing to install specific versions of development tools, the following ent

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 19 10:29, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > From: Andrew DeFaria > > > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > > >> Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" > > 99.44% of the > > >> time. Of course, since it's not the 21st centur

Re: Cygwin 1.7 domains and home directories

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Working (strace2): > > pwdgrp::load: \etc\passwd curr_lines 20308 > > Failing (strace1): > > pwdgrp::load: \etc\passwd curr_lines 520 > > So Cygwin thinks there are only 520 lines in the file, even though it > knows that the filesize is 2490367 bytes. OK, good. Curious that the bad behavi

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Andrew DeFaria > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >> Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" > 99.44% of the > >> time. Of course, since it's not the 21st century yet, many Unixoid > >> programs are still unable to ha

Re: POP Rmail in Emacs

2008-12-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:21:06 -0500 > From: Ken Brown > CC: eliz at gnu dot org > > On 12/19/2008 3:27 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I guess this is an ample opportunity to call for volunteers to come on > > board and help maintaining the Cygwin build of Emacs. As of now, the > > Cygwin bu

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Mark J. Reed wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" 99.44% of the time. Of course, since it's not the 21st century yet, many Unixoid programs are still unable to handle text files properly, hence the remaining 0

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread David Abrahams
on Fri Dec 19 2008, Eric Blake wrote: > By the way, the program 'd2u' is your friend. I'm on *nix now to avoid all such issues, but yeah, when I have to run Cygwin in a VM, it's a thing to keep in mind. Thanks for all the responses everyone. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boo

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 06:34:19AM -0700, Eric Blake wrote: >According to David Abrahams on 12/18/2008 7:42 PM: >>Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line >>ending conventions? > >Because Unix line endings work out of the box with more programs, and >because it is fas

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > Me too, and like you and the OP report, it "just works" 99.44% of the time. > Of course, since it's not the 21st century yet, many Unixoid programs are > still unable to handle text files properly, hence the remaining 0.66%. 100 - 99.44

Re: Cygwin 1.7 domains and home directories

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 19 09:38, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > On Dec 17 09:39, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > > After a reboot, I ran > > > > > > strace -o strace.txt c:\cygwin-1.7\bin\bash.exe --login > > > > > > and observed the error in the shell that started. The strace output is at > > > http://home.comcast.net/

Re: POP Rmail in Emacs

2008-12-19 Thread Ken Brown
On 12/19/2008 3:27 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: I guess this is an ample opportunity to call for volunteers to come on board and help maintaining the Cygwin build of Emacs. As of now, the Cygwin build has some known ``stability issues'' (read: it sometimes crashes during the build or in routine ope

Re: Cygwin 1.7 domains and home directories

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew Schulman
> On Dec 17 09:39, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > After a reboot, I ran > > > > strace -o strace.txt c:\cygwin-1.7\bin\bash.exe --login > > > > and observed the error in the shell that started. The strace output is at > > http://home.comcast.net/~aschulman2/cygwin-1.7/strace.txt.bz2 . > > Thanks fo

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: asciidoc-8.3.1-2

2008-12-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A new version of the asciidoc package, asciidoc 8.3.1-2, is now available for download, replacing the broken 8.3.1-1 and leaving 8.2.7-1 as previous. NEWS: = This is a repackage of a new upstream release, which fixes my packaging bug caused by ups

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Re: [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-36

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 19 14:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > [...] As usual, please report bugs and problems to the mailing > list cygwin AT Erm... "the mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com". I also forgot to repeat the pointer to the new online documentation: http://cygwin.com/1.7/cygwin-ug-net/cygwin-ug-net.

Re: Unusual environemtal variables

2008-12-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Steve Rainbird on 12/19/2008 2:22 AM: > When i run a Fuijitsu Cobol program it requires environmental variables > starting with the @ sign. That is inherently non-portable. POSIX states that "Other characters may be permitted by an imple

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to David Abrahams on 12/18/2008 7:42 PM: > Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line > ending conventions? Because Unix line endings work out of the box with more programs, and because it is faster, and because

Re: problem with latest asciddoc download

2008-12-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to AMADE Paul Bernard on 12/19/2008 12:40 AM: > updated asciidoc > the asciddoc executable in /usr/bin is empty and does nothing > how should I correct this? Indeed, so it is :( Probably due to the fact that asciidoc 8.3.1 switched from a h

[ANNOUNCEMENT] [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-36

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi community, As my (probably) last action before the New Year break (I'll be offline most of the time until January the 7th), I just uploaded a new Cygwin 1.7 test release, 1.7.0-36. As announced in my first message about the 1.7 test, just download http://cygwin.com/setup-1.7.exe and use that

Re: noacl functionality for MS-DOS destination paths?

2008-12-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 18 20:53, Lawrence Mayer wrote: > Is there any way to get noacl functionality when using MS-DOS destination > paths? > > My etc/fstab file (below) applies noacl for UNIX destination paths e.g. > > C:\cygwin\bin\mkdir.exe /c/foo > > creates directory C:\foo with NTFS default permissions inhe

[ANNOUNCEMENT] New package: gamin-0.1.10-1

2008-12-19 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The following packages have been added to the distribution: *** gamin-0.1.10-1 *** libfam0-0.1.10-1 *** libfam-devel-0.1.10-1 *** libgamin1_0-0.1.10-1 *** libgamin1-devel-0.1.10-1 *** python-gamin-0.1.10-1 gamin is a portable drop-in replacement fo

RE: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> From: Spiro Trikaliotis > > Hello David, > > * On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:42:20PM -0900 David Abrahams wrote: > > > > Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix > > line ending conventions? DOS-compatible endings have > always "just worked" > > for me and I've heard

Unusual environemtal variables

2008-12-19 Thread Steve Rainbird
When i run a Fuijitsu Cobol program it requires environmental variables starting with the @ sign. SET @CBR_CONSOLE=SYSTEM When I try and set these in a bash shell I get the following. $ export @CBR_CONSOLE=SYSTEM -bash: export: `...@cbr_console=system': not a valid identifier Is there any way

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread Spiro Trikaliotis
Hello David, * On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:42:20PM -0900 David Abrahams wrote: > > Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line > ending conventions? DOS-compatible endings have always "just worked" > for me and I've heard of lots of problems doing it the now-recommende

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: cygport-0.4.3-1, 0.9.4-1

2008-12-19 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 cygport has been updated to 0.4.3 for Cygwin 1.5, and 0.9.4 for 1.7, with similar changes to both: * Requires libtool-2.2 throughout. * cygpatch() tries with and without --binary. * lndirs() uses lndir(1) unconditionally. * Override pushd and popd w

Re: POP Rmail in Emacs

2008-12-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: gustav > Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:50:53 -0500 (EST) > > > If you still use Emacs' original Rmail with POP under Cygwin, you may > have noticed that it doesn't work. The reason is that Rmail tries to > create a file with a ":" in its name, which Cygwin can't do. A simple > remedy is to e

Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-19 Thread David Abrahams
Can anyone explain why the installer began recommending using *nix line ending conventions? DOS-compatible endings have always "just worked" for me and I've heard of lots of problems doing it the now-recommended way. See http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3ca61d44020812070523t3778f9