On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:46 PM Rich Felker wrote:
> ...
> > > There is one kinda legitimate purpose for detecting specifically musl:
> >
> > It is not your role to tell us which code we write is "legitimate" and
> > which code is not. I am a grown-up programmer.
>
> I'm not trying to tell you you
[Dropping config-patches from CC.]
Hi Rich,
> I'm not trying to tell you you're not a grown-up programmer. I'm
> trying to tell you that the answer to the question you're asking ("is
> this musl?") is not meaningful
Good. Then maybe the term "legitimate" was too strong...
> It's true that imple
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 09:21:48PM +0200, Bruno Haible wrote:
> Rich,
>
> POSIX — like many other standard — allows different implementations to
> behave differently. For example, iconv_open() and setlocale() behave
> differently in different POSIX-compliant libc implementations. This is
> OK. The
Rich,
POSIX — like many other standard — allows different implementations to
behave differently. For example, iconv_open() and setlocale() behave
differently in different POSIX-compliant libc implementations. This is
OK. There is nothing wrong with it on either side.
Unit tests [1] need to take i
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 03:56:29PM +0200, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> * Bruno Haible [2020-09-20 13:19:13 +0200]:
> > Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > Is this __DEFINED_va_list macro the official way of detecting musl?
> >
> > No, but in a world where the musl people don't want to provide an official
> >
* Bruno Haible [2020-09-20 13:19:13 +0200]:
> Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > Is this __DEFINED_va_list macro the official way of detecting musl?
>
> No, but in a world where the musl people don't want to provide an official
> way [1][2] and the Alpine Linux people break their previously working way o
Hello,
On 2020-09-20 05:19, Bruno Haible wrote:
Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
Is this __DEFINED_va_list macro the official way of detecting musl?
No, but in a world where the musl people don't want to provide an official
way [1][2] and the Alpine Linux people break their previously working way of
de
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 03:30:54PM +0200, Bruno Haible wrote:
> The value of $host_os, determined by the current config.guess, is:
> - On Alpine Linux 3.9: linux-musl
> - On Alpine Linux 3.10: linux-gnu
> - On Alpine Linux 3.12: linux-musl
>
> The reason is that config.guess tests 'ldd --ver
Hello,
On 2020-09-20 04:12, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 03:30:54PM +0200, Bruno Haible wrote:
The value of $host_os, determined by the current config.guess, is:
- On Alpine Linux 3.9: linux-musl
- On Alpine Linux 3.10: linux-gnu
- On Alpine Linux 3.12: linux-musl
Th
Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> Is this __DEFINED_va_list macro the official way of detecting musl?
No, but in a world where the musl people don't want to provide an official
way [1][2] and the Alpine Linux people break their previously working way of
detecting musl [3], we (GNU) need to use our own heur
Ben Elliston wrote:
> > You are assuming that system programs have a test suite that will
> > protect them from introducing regressions? I don't think that's realistic.
> > Even glibc has regressions occasionally.
>
> Not really. It is not difficult for programmers to be disciplined and
> know the
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 04:10:24AM +0200, Bruno Haible wrote:
> > The command line interface of system programs should remain stable.
>
> You are assuming that system programs have a test suite that will
> protect them from introducing regressions? I don't think that's realistic.
> Even glibc has
Ben Elliston wrote:
> and 3.10 becomes unsupported after May 1
> next year. By the time this fix is propagated into packages that
> include config.guess, I imagine most users will have upgraded to
> >3.10.
I had hoped that the fix would be contained in the GNU grep release
that Jim Meyering is pre
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 03:30:54PM +0200, Bruno Haible wrote:
> The value of $host_os, determined by the current config.guess, is:
> - On Alpine Linux 3.9: linux-musl
> - On Alpine Linux 3.10: linux-gnu
> - On Alpine Linux 3.12: linux-musl
>
> The reason is that config.guess tests 'ldd --ve
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