[CMake] Sebastian Barre's private flames

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
n't have a clue about it, > and admitted it a few days ago if I recall. Do I need to send an > email to Google to "make you stop"? (<- joke). Below is the kind of missive that led me to ask Sebastian to stop sending me private e-mails. I tolerated his diatri

Re: [CMake] cmake community site

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Sebastien BARRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are actually reworking a few of our websites at Kitware (see > http://cdash.org/), maybe CMake is on the list. That's a decently handsome webpage. If only the wiki could be skinned. Cheer

Re: [CMake] cmake community site

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
ently think is warranted. What wiki improvement would cause Kitware to see it as a profit center? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Lua in a nutshell

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Sebastien BARRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 3/4/2008 12:28 PM, Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > > > > > - CMake script must be maintained indefinitely for a small percentage > > > > of users no matter what the m

Re: [CMake] Lua in a nutshell

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
At the macroeconomic scale, CMake script is too parochial and not what the marketplace wants as The One True Build Language. In fact the marketplace may not want The One True Build Language at all; they might be amenable to the one true build engine. Someone like Sun could dump money into making a lot o

Re: [CMake] VMWare on SCons' future

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Jesper Eskilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > > http://www.nabble

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM, James Mansion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Van Every wrote: > >> Then probably that is because those projects use Ruby AND Python AND Tcl > >> - so I have to have them anyway. Hey, lets all use C89. Everyone has > >>

Re: [CMake] VMWare on SCons' future

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.nabble.com/SCons-Future-Directions-and-Thoughts-td15176258.html > > > you can learn tons about SCons from that thread. And there's one *really* spectacu

Re: [CMake] VMWare on SCons' future

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > VMWare is a large commercial project. > > > http://www.nabble.com/SCons-Future-Directions-and-Th

[CMake] Lua in a nutshell

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
e to drop it and use something else, like (don't get me started > on the wrong tail) The archives contain abundant ink on this subject. Well, bytes, whatever. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] cmake community site

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
n techie marketing. So grudgingly, I'll see if I can stand to learn some NVU. http://www.nvu.com/ I had a website a long time ago that I used FrontPage 2000 for. That was no fun, and it never amounted to anything resembling professional production values. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

[CMake] Re: VMWare on SCons' future

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > VMWare is a large commercial project. > http://www.nabble.com/SCons-Future-Directions-and-Thoughts-td15176258.html My impression so far is that SCons appeals to a company that wants to program a cust

[CMake] VMWare on SCons' future

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
jects large enough to say anything. I don't think there are any competing proprietary tools? If I've overlooked something please let me know. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Add lots of commands

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
for anyone's specific purposes though. The code is available under Mozilla's usual tri-license. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416982 Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

[CMake] repeating conditional clauses

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
one who only does periodic maintenance and doesn't try to be a CMake expert. Maybe we could just ask our program text editor to magically insert an appropriate comment, based on the if(clause). It would be a form of pretty printing. It would comment any conditionals that are m

Re: [CMake] Re: Raven, Antwrap, Buildr

2008-03-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
rd C FFI. Well, TIOBE would seem to say that Common Lisp is more popular than Lua, so indeed maybe old prejudices are fading. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > P.S. BTW, rake is something like a 200 line script only, so it is > extremely bare-bones. Hm. A reputation disproportionate to its size. How does a language or tool manage that? Early niches filled? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

[CMake] Re: Raven, Antwrap, Buildr

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://incubator.apache.org/buildr/ > > A review of Buildr > http://danielroop.com/blog/2007/08/

[CMake] Re: Raven, Antwrap, Buildr

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://incubator.apache.org/buildr/ A review of Buildr http://danielroop.com/blog/2007/08/25/buildr-review/#more-50 Says that Buildr is implementing a DSL for builds, it's not straight Ruby. Also,

[CMake] Re: Raven, Antwrap, Buildr

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2007/12/05/introducing-raven-an-elegant-build-for-java.html &g

[CMake] Re: Raven, Antwrap, Buildr

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2007/12/05/introducing-raven-an-elegant-build-for-java.html The comments following this article are interesting. For instance, on syntax: "This is just stu

[CMake] Raven, Antwrap, Buildr

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
solve Java build problems, with different approaches than Raven. http://antwrap.rubyforge.org/ http://incubator.apache.org/buildr/ I intend to find out if any of these tools have been used for large projects, and if they exist, whether Ruby has demonstrated any remarkable advantages. Cheers, B

[CMake] CMake and Lua => DSL!?

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
ould like to see a large scale project that proves that, rather than assuming it. From a marketing and documentation standpoint, standard scripting languages are provably better than DSLs. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-03-02 Thread Brandon Van Every
issues may not go away. They may have to be handled by marketing and political means. That's an avenue that the CMake community has put very little effort into. I'm not going to point fingers, as I precipitated the cmake-promote mailing list once upon a time and have done very little since then. Too busy coding like most programmers are. I'm just trying to make a pitch for humanistic rather than technical solutions to some of these problems. Techies tend to overlook anything that isn't tech. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-03-01 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Especially in open source, I think it is > reasonable to make developers do trivial amounts of work to move on, > at some point, if the migration tools have been thoroughly tested and > prove

[CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-03-01 Thread Brandon Van Every
support 2 languages indefinitely. I just see it as unnecessary. Especially in open source, I think it is reasonable to make developers do trivial amounts of work to move on, at some point, if the migration tools have been thoroughly tested and proven in the field. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Re: CMake and Lua

2008-03-01 Thread Brandon Van Every
M_TARGET(test COMMAND echo "A=\${A}") > | INSTALL(CODE "MESSAGE(\"A=\${A}\")") > > | $ make A=a test > | A=a > | $ make A=a install > | A= There are definitely string argument evaluation level bugs. I resorted to passing variables rather tha

Re: [CMake] Converting a VS Build to CMake/Problems with Post-Build steps, questions

2008-02-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
you can generally use for any mailing list archive, unless the archive has been made invisible to non-subscribers. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Re: CMAKE_ALLOW_LOOSE_LOOP_CONSTRUCTS TRUE by default

2008-02-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
t from a marketing standpoint, this makes sense. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Re: CMake and Lua

2008-02-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
s of marketing prejudice, most newcomers will hate the repetition. I think that's blind prejudice on their part and that the repetition has technical merit. But I agree it doesn't have marketing merit. > It's unmaintainable because every time you make the slightest modification

Re: [CMake] Removing cmake as a dependancy

2008-02-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
who knows better can answer this one. CMake is definitely not designed around this case use, it's designed around being part of the build. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Sebastien BARRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 2/29/2008 12:03 AM, Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > You've got a deal. I'll make sure to swing by Bill's office tomorrow > > > and remind him about his "realizat

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sebastien BARRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 2/28/2008 09:06 PM, Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > So, I guess I will wait until then, and you can prove me wrong... Until > > > then, can you give it a break? > > >

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > >> Just suppose I am correct and it is > >> not possible to write a good enough translator. Would you then still > >> advocate droppin

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
e > large projects with a translator is not one I would appreciate being > driven into by the CMake developers. Estimating conservatively, I got 1/2 of the way there with Mozilla. Autoconf + GMake --> CMake is a much more difficult translation problem than CMake --> Lua. I know what

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > > Only thing problematic I could see, is if someone's getting clever and > > using CMake script to generate CMake script. I think it would be > >

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-27 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > That's 2 cantankerous languages and a rather general problem domain. > > CMake script is a rather limited language. Not that hard to map it to > > L

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-27 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > I think if the automated translation tool had proven itself for a > > couple of years, it would be perfectly reasonable to force people to > > mov

Re: [CMake] Python installation files on linux

2008-02-27 Thread Brandon Van Every
X REPLACE ...) on the output. Sometimes the version of a tool is contained in a .h file. In that case you'd use try_compile and write some C preprocessor commands to capture the output. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-27 Thread Brandon Van Every
So there is still that 2 year window of supporting 2 languages. > So, we might have two official languages someday, but no more than that. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
Miyagi from "The Karate Kid" said something like, "better to know 1 kick well." Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
ting languages. I think a migration needs a language translator, so that builds can be migrated quickly to the new, preferred, standard language. CMake script --> Lua translation is certainly doable, but someone would have to do it, and it would be real work. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
ense sucks. The price of Ruby's nice language features is that it's slow. Anyways, if someone could explain to me why Rake matters, I'd listen. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
troyed? ;) Actually, all of the rings lost their power at that time. Analogously, we'd forget about build systems and go into the West. We could speculate about who's the Dark Lord. By my demeanor I am surely an Uruk-hai captain. >-) Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] Re: CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
ved need to do anything imaginable, because they don't actually know enough about build systems to know what's really required. Small-to-medium sized projects are a documentation and marketing problem, not a technical problem. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
ould have no incentive to contribute features to standard CMake. This is a form of community fragmentation. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
confirmed this opinion of yours? I did not attend, but I read the schedule and noticed there were presentations for both CMake and SCons. Was it something the lecturers said? Audience questions? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing li

Re: [CMake] Re: Re: IF( ${VAR} ) behaviour

2008-02-25 Thread Brandon Van Every
in the bug tracker as {document, text} bugs, along with the exact words you think should be used. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-24 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM, E. Wing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/24/08, Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So are you going to write this framework for us, that makes all the > > work of supporting multiple languages magically go aw

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-24 Thread Brandon Van Every
x27;t. They can pay for that kind of support. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-24 Thread Brandon Van Every
ndex.html?tiobe_index Find me evidence of people who refuse to touch Lua. Trying to please everyone by technical means will result in marginal gains in popularity. A marketing campaign would get a lot more bang for the buck. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___

Re: [CMake] CMake and Lua

2008-02-23 Thread Brandon Van Every
d to CMake's BSD license. Most of the languages other than Lua are somewhat bloated, both in terms of execution size and speed. In short, I do not see value in trying to be all things to all people. That's an expensive way to do business. Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] Get the drive from a path

2008-02-21 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Neal Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On windows I need a way to get a drive letter from a path. Does > anybody have any tricks for doing this? Not a trick: string(REGEX MATCH ...) Cheers, Brand

Re: [CMake] FindXXX, XXXConfig and UseXXX

2008-02-18 Thread Brandon Van Every
endif() What's wrong with: include(findXXX) if(XXX_FOUND) someXXX_macro(whatever) endif(XXX_FOUND) Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] [PATCH] add docbook support for cmake documentation

2008-02-17 Thread Brandon Van Every
getting people to write docs, even when people are paid to write docs (unlike here). Here's a semi-illuminating article on docbook vs. DITA. http://norman.walsh.name/2006/03/24/dita2006 If nothing else you should read it just to understand what docbook thinks it

[CMake] Re: function and raise_scope commands (+ unset bug)

2008-02-17 Thread Brandon Van Every
o they talk about parents. Well when I'm more awake I'll think about the wordsmithing. I keep wanting to work the word 'call' or 'caller' in somehow. If you're altering the caller's variables, why not talk about the caller? Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] Re: function and raise_scope commands (+ unset bug)

2008-02-17 Thread Brandon Van Every
clunky feeling to it. Even if it turns out to be practical, CMake script does have an image problem. Keywords that don't exacerbate it would be better. I can't quite think of what PARENT_SCOPE really means to do, if parent directories are taken out of the

Re: [CMake] CMake Feature list

2008-02-15 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/Really_Cool_CMake_Features > > > > I think

Re: [CMake] can't build CMake CVS

2008-02-15 Thread Brandon Van Every
omutil.h new to CMake CVS? If so, I bet it won't build with a Windows Server 2003 R2 SDK and free VC8. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake Feature list

2008-02-15 Thread Brandon Van Every
l-informed soul takes issue with the word in the sense of, "Oh JOY" (not), the feedback can only stimulate the CMake community and increase CMake's notoriety. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] can't build CMake CVS

2008-02-15 Thread Brandon Van Every
specific issue? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake Feature list

2008-02-15 Thread Brandon Van Every
t. Guys, guys, read the list and add it yourselves! It's a wiki. We don't need discussion here. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

[CMake] can't build CMake CVS

2008-02-15 Thread Brandon Van Every
on "public: __thiscall _bstr_t::Data_t::Data_t(char const *)" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Z) CMakeLib.lib Windows Vista, with the free VC8 compiler, using CMake 2.4.8 as the build tool, building CMake 2.4.8 works fine. Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] ADD_CUSTOM_COMMAND Bug

2008-02-13 Thread Brandon Van Every
2008/2/13 Malhotra, Anupam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Please notice that $(IntDir) is automatically changed to "$"(IntDir) in the > actual post build setup. Can anyone please tell me if this is a bug in > cmake? Looks like a bug to me. File it.

Re: [CMake] @MY_VAR@ are replaced by empty string !

2008-02-13 Thread Brandon Van Every
does not have any configuration step or cache. However, it's not reasonable for it to die with the error it's giving. I've filed bug http://cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=6337 "cmake -P crashes on configure_file". Are you using cmake -P or a CMakeLists.txt? Cheers, Brandon V

Re: [CMake] Mozilla and automatic Autoconf + GMake translation

2008-02-12 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Alexander Neundorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 12 February 2008, Brandon Van Every wrote: > > Mozilla has made public the code I worked on for them. > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416982 It is an > > incomplete

Re: [CMake] Quoting, spaces in include paths, CMake input files generation, life, the universe and everything.

2008-02-12 Thread Brandon Van Every
e_file is performed, the single backslashes that escape the whitespace are lost. "\ " turns into " ". If you were to string(REPLACE "\\" "" out "${in}") for all your paths before performing the configure_file, I think you would solve the

[CMake] Mozilla and automatic Autoconf + GMake translation

2008-02-12 Thread Brandon Van Every
a CMake build system. I was unable to complete it for them. Volunteer open source developers could probably complete it, however. The translator is a big step in the right direction for tackling such a large build tree. Cheers, Brandon Van Every

Re: [CMake] Problem in ADD_CUSTOM_COMMAND

2008-02-11 Thread Brandon Van Every
ERBATIM) > > > I think you have forgot the ARGS argument ARGS is old school. Not necessary anymore. I think someone forgot to convert the paths to native Windows paths. Use file(TO_NATIVE_PATH path result) Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Wee question about CMake developer etiquette

2008-02-10 Thread Brandon Van Every
ll" > is immaterial. It was your explanation, not mine. I agreed with your explanation. I think your choice of words is material. You have also sought to explain me as "Machiavellian." I acquiesced to that explanation in order to bring peace. Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] Wee question about CMake developer etiquette

2008-02-10 Thread Brandon Van Every
I apologized on the Lua list. ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Wee question about CMake developer etiquette

2008-02-10 Thread Brandon Van Every
e word "we," I meant the CMake community. In context it was probably appropriate. You are showing an unwillingness to agree to disagree, and you are forgetting your own statement that "I mean well." Do you mean well? Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-09 Thread Brandon Van Every
een around the block with a ponderous build, surely you've got an inventory of ideas about how these behemoths go, how you could better present the job to the client, and how you could better manage the risk of it succeeding or failing. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-09 Thread Brandon Van Every
ld say, "Hey presto here are some results!" Enough to make people realize that their conversion isn't hopeless and imponderable, that all they really have to do is dive in and clean up the translation output. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Brandon Van Every
tasks are enough. Ok, so you're on record as having your doubts and thinking this wouldn't work for you. I suppose that's a data point and dealing with skepticism is an issue. Anyone else feel more bullish about this? Otherwise I guess it's not an open source problem. Mo

Re: [CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 8, 2008 11:30 AM, Jesper Eskilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > Someone asked me the other day why CMake doesn't do this. I thought I > > gave him a reasonable answer, that it would be painful to do, and that > > CMake -->

[CMake] converting VS projects to CMake

2008-02-08 Thread Brandon Van Every
e true for MSVC, plus MSVC changes its format every few years. Does MSVC pose any other special difficulties, other than sheer mind-numbingness of translation? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] 4th Edition CMake book now in stock

2008-02-06 Thread Brandon Van Every
ack In Time and rant and rave to my 11 year old self about what a horrible word "piracy" is?? The audacity of those game developers, how dare they seek compensation by restrictive technological means! We should burn all our Double Fannucci collecto

Re: [CMake] 4th Edition CMake book now in stock

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 5, 2008 6:49 PM, Alan W. Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-02-05 17:08-0500 Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > On Feb 5, 2008 4:28 PM, Alan W. Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I looked at that site, and there was no mention of an el

Re: [CMake] 4th Edition CMake book now in stock

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
have filed http://cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=6295 on this issue. A CMake newbie needs enough free documentation to become an intermediate user. After that, they can choose to RTFM, grep sources, read mailing list archives, or buy books. I don't think they need to get everything that anyone woul

[CMake] Re: [CMake-Promote] Cmake Book

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 5, 2008 2:30 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The 4th edition CMake books have arrived and you can order them from > http://kitware.com/products/cmakebook.html I've ordered. Am I first? Do I get a cookie? Cheer

Re: [CMake] Multiple toolchains in one CMakeList?

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 5, 2008 2:15 PM, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag 05 Februar 2008 schrieb Brandon Van Every: > > > On Feb 5, 2008 11:08 AM, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Quoting Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [CMake] Multiple toolchains in one CMakeList?

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 5, 2008 11:08 AM, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoting Brandon Van Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Feb 5, 2008 10:05 AM, John Spray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> If I were invoking a second CMake, would I be able to

Re: [CMake] Multiple toolchains in one CMakeList?

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
mething. You'd have to know what that output is going to be, and how to invoke the build. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Multiple toolchains in one CMakeList?

2008-02-05 Thread Brandon Van Every
'd have to take over linking manually with some kind of add_custom_command, however you usually get it to work. Why do you need the foreign code embedded in the host library? Wouldn't shipping libraries for multiple platforms be enough? Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] Re: How to pass arguments to 'cmake -P' scripts?

2008-02-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Feb 4, 2008 3:09 PM, Bill Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > > But my question is *why* must -P be the last thing? Is this a design > > flaw, or is there some shell reason for it? > > > > I think it is so you can hav

Re: [CMake] Re: How to pass arguments to 'cmake -P' scripts?

2008-02-04 Thread Brandon Van Every
cache is not modified. If variables are defined using -D, this must be done before the -P argument. But my question is *why* must -P be the last thing? Is this a design flaw, or is there some shell reason for it? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailin

Re: [CMake] Running shell scripts...

2008-02-03 Thread Brandon Van Every
E_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/SVN_REVISION Otherwise an out of source build fails. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Win32 Executable.

2008-02-01 Thread Brandon Van Every
AND CMAKE_CFG_INTDIR STREQUAL "/Debug") set(wingui) endif(MSVC AND CMAKE_CFG_INTDIR STREQUAL "/Debug") # use this style for all add_executable calls add_executable(foo ${wingui} blah.c etc.c) Cheers, Brandon Van Every > > Surya > ___

Re: [CMake] Unexpected behavior testing boolean expressions

2008-01-31 Thread Brandon Van Every
k they should be removed as true/false values. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Unneeded escaping: how to stop it?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Van Every
to the commands will be passed exactly as specified no matter the build tool used. Note that one level of escapes is still used by the CMake language processor before ADD_CUSTOM_TARGET even sees the arguments." Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMak

Re: [CMake] problem setting CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE and CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX

2008-01-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
s wiki entry: "Note that CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE is not initialized with a readable value at configuration time. This is because the user is free to select a build type at build time. Use CMAKE_CFG_INTDIR if you need a variable that evaluates to the correct build time directory. " Cheers, Bran

Re: [CMake] Including existing make files into cmake

2008-01-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
NG_MAKE_FLAGS), is added. > > The above works fine, the only pain is that I have to edit the build.make > file every time I re-run the cmake command. The question is, how can this be > automated by cmake commands? string(REGEX REPLACE ...) Cheers, Brandon Van Every _

Re: [CMake] problem setting CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE and CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX

2008-01-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
rew energy at the problem, there was no known solution. Unless the latest greatest MSVC is doing something different. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] $ENV usage and documentation

2008-01-29 Thread Brandon Van Every
l. Generally I just give the 1..2 sentences necessary, and someone else goes through the bother of getting it into the docs. I think that's as it should be, since for such small changes, constructing and applying patches is useless overhead for all parties. Cheer

Re: [CMake] problem setting CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE and CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX

2008-01-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
ot set this unless you have an exceptionally good reason to. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] Unneeded escaping: how to stop it?

2008-01-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
problem with, you've skipped around from command to command to command. By "trivial" I mean 1 line of mis-translating text, not a dump of whatever project you're working on. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] $ENV usage and documentation

2008-01-28 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Jan 28, 2008 12:16 AM, Alan W. Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-01-27 22:28-0500 Brandon Van Every wrote: > > > On Jan 27, 2008 8:34 PM, Alan W. Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would like to be able to read arbitrary environment variables f

Re: [CMake] Unneeded escaping: how to stop it?

2008-01-27 Thread Brandon Van Every
... > > Now if I go and check the configure log, I see that the LDFLAGS are > interpreted as "-L${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/lib\ -ldl" (watch the escaping > of the " " (space)). Did you try VERBATIM? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] $ENV usage and documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Brandon Van Every
. It doesn't exist in the build environment, as CMake is gone and we're not running under CMake's choice of shell anymore. This gotcha should also be noted in the set() docs. Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

Re: [CMake] CMake 2.4.5 errors on code which works fine in 2.4.7

2008-01-24 Thread Brandon Van Every
On Jan 24, 2008 2:50 PM, Andreas Pakulat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas how to solve this (besides upgrading cmake)? Quotes? Cheers, Brandon Van Every ___ CMake mailing list CMake@cmake.org http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake

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