Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-18 Thread Dumas Patrice
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:37:07PM +, Karl Berry wrote: > > No warning for HTML, as well as docbook, sounds right to me. Done. -- Pat

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-13 Thread Karl Berry
Should I have a per format indicator that non empty @part is ok for that format (in texi2any.pl)? Yes, let's. If so, should docbook be the only format not warned for, or should also HTML be in that situation, as non empty @part is correctly rendered in that format? No warni

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-11 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:05:38PM +, Karl Berry wrote: > > I guess I'm ok with both parts of this (the and the > non-docbook warning), but ... I implemented that, but for now there is a warning for every format, including docbook. Should I have a per format indicator that non empty @part i

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-10 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi Karl. We're still disagreeing, but on a more subtle point. > Not really - the translator should handle it. > > I don't agree. It's the same principle that you already stated: you're > saying that Texinfo should support for Docbook, but we're > saying that since it's not supported for a

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-09 Thread Karl Berry
Not really - the translator should handle it. I don't agree. It's the same principle that you already stated: you're saying that Texinfo should support for Docbook, but we're saying that since it's not supported for any other format, that is not, in theory, what we'd like. In the specific

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-09 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi Karl. > 2. For all current features of the Texinfo language, the docbook output >generated by makeinfo should be valid docbook. I think we all agree >on this as a principle. > > Agreed. > >If we accept this, then for makeinfo --docbook, any text >following @

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-07 Thread Karl Berry
2. For all current features of the Texinfo language, the docbook output generated by makeinfo should be valid docbook. I think we all agree on this as a principle. Agreed. If we accept this, then for makeinfo --docbook, any text following @part and preceding the f

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-07 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi Karl. > I'm sorry, but what you want for @part is something completely different > than what I intended. Oddly enough, I implemented what I intended :), > which was essentially just standalone "part pages" that bear no > relationship to the rest of the document. OK. We have a bad confluence o

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-06 Thread Dumas Patrice
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:43:20PM +, Karl Berry wrote: > > Does that work? That seems to me to best reflect the reality of the > situation, which is that "partintro" text is a Docbook feature, not > supported in Texinfo. > > - we revisit the "no text after @part" rule and decide somet

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-06 Thread Dumas Patrice
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:59:20AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote: > Hi Karl and Patrice. > > > How about: > > > > @part Part Title > > @docbook > > intro to part blah blah > > @end docbook > > > > Does that work? That seems to me to best reflect the reality of the > > situation, which is that "part

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-06 Thread Karl Berry
Arnold, I'm sorry, but what you want for @part is something completely different than what I intended. Oddly enough, I implemented what I intended :), which was essentially just standalone "part pages" that bear no relationship to the rest of the document. For example, it is completely intention

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-06 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi Karl and Patrice. > How about: > > @part Part Title > @docbook > intro to part blah blah > @end docbook > > Does that work? That seems to me to best reflect the reality of the > situation, which is that "partintro" text is a Docbook feature, not > supported in Texinfo. It probably works, but

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-05 Thread Karl Berry
Texi2dvi adds a full page for the text after @part, it is acceptable, But ugly. Not what anyone would want to print in a real book. @node node before part @path the part Nodes cannot be associated with parts. That would break everything. * in any case, add in DocBook output

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-05-05 Thread Dumas Patrice
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:15:45PM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote: > Hi Patrice. > > Me: > > > Right now if I use @docbook, I'm getting: > > > > > > > > > introductory blah blah here > > > > > > < these are from what came before the part > > > > > > > > >... > > > >

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-04-26 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi Patrice. Me: > > Right now if I use @docbook, I'm getting: > > > > > > introductory blah blah here > > > > < these are from what came before the part > > > > > > ... > > Patrice: > That looks like a bug, the DocBook produced does not even seem to b

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-04-25 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 04:59:43AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote: > Hi Karl. > > > So, Texinfo @parts do not map to Docbook. Not surprising. Such is > > life. To get parts in your Docbook output, all I can think of is the > > useless "hack it in by hand" approach (e.g., throw comments into the >

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-04-23 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi Karl. > So, Texinfo @parts do not map to Docbook. Not surprising. Such is > life. To get parts in your Docbook output, all I can think of is the > useless "hack it in by hand" approach (e.g., throw comments into the > source and post-process them to create the necessary /related > elements).

Re: @part command and docbook

2014-04-23 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Arnold, So, Texinfo @parts do not map to Docbook. Not surprising. Such is life. To get parts in your Docbook output, all I can think of is the useless "hack it in by hand" approach (e.g., throw comments into the source and post-process them to create the necessary /related elements). Sorry.

@part command and docbook

2014-04-23 Thread Aharon Robbins
Hi. The @part command is somewhat mismatched with how docbook works. In particular, parts include chapters, so for correct generation of the docbook tags, we should really have @part @parttitle Title Of The Part Here @chapter ... @chapter ... @end part