Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Karl Berry
I agree it should be skipped. In some ideal world, but in this world, I think doing so would lead to huge problems. For the present, it seems far more feasible to me to keep using the UTF-8 code in texinfo.tex for the immediate problem than refactor all the font stuff, all the character supp

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Gavin Smith
On 31 December 2015 at 13:48, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> So here's what's happening. When @documentencoding UTF-8 is given, >> it makes bytes 128-255 active. However, for LuaTeX, it's actually >> making characters 128-255 active. > > Do we need active characters in that range at all for luatex (a

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So here's what's happening. When @documentencoding UTF-8 is given, > it makes bytes 128-255 active. However, for LuaTeX, it's actually > making characters 128-255 active. Do we need active characters in that range at all for luatex (and xetex)? The UTF8 support (this is, the code that convert

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Gavin Smith
On 31 December 2015 at 12:58, Gavin Smith wrote: > On 31 December 2015 at 11:17, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> >>> I think the "Undefined control sequence" message comes for an active >>> character (that is, a byte with category code 13) which doesn't have a >>> definition. This would be hex c2. >> >>

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Gavin Smith
On 31 December 2015 at 11:17, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> I think the "Undefined control sequence" message comes for an active >> character (that is, a byte with category code 13) which doesn't have a >> definition. This would be hex c2. > > Can you really make byte 0xC2 active in luatex? This wou

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> You could try the attached file and send the log here to see if we >> can find any enlightenment from it. [...] XeTeX fails in a similar way, see attached log. Werner This is XeTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-0.2 (TeX Live 2015) (preloaded format=xetex 2015.12.31) 31 DEC 2015 12:18 en

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think the "Undefined control sequence" message comes for an active > character (that is, a byte with category code 13) which doesn't have a > definition. This would be hex c2. Can you really make byte 0xC2 active in luatex? This would completely break Unicode support, since 0xC2 is an incomp

Re: luatex problems with texinfo.tex

2015-12-31 Thread Gavin Smith
On 30 December 2015 at 23:24, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Processing the attached document with luatex, I get > > ! Undefined control sequence. > l.7 which assigns the symbols *, †, ‡, § > , ¶ to > > It works just fine with pdtex. A bug? I think the