Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Karl, hi all, lots of mails here, but I still don't see why you are opposing the idea to have different versions of the same program installed, and wanting to be able to *check* all of them. On Mon, 03 Aug 2015, Karl Berry wrote: > If you're globally changing the meaning of the "emacs" binary,

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 22:55, Karl Berry wrote: > Perhaps it's naive, but I feel like I might just want a dir like this so > that I can find what I want and don't have to change global state and/or > restart the viewer just to read different versions: > > I agree. You can have that now.

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Karl Berry
Perhaps it's naive, but I feel like I might just want a dir like this so that I can find what I want and don't have to change global state and/or restart the viewer just to read different versions: I agree. You can have that now. It does not need new features, so far as I can see. J

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Karl Berry
> I'm wondering if we can kill two birds with one stone here and get > install-info to actually install the Info file as part of the > solution. I really really really advise against going down that road. -k

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Karl Berry
That doesn't happen, and nobody seems to miss it. If the shell can avoid a lot of complexity handling multiple versions of programs, I suspect it may not be necessary for documentation either. Indeed. Which is why I don't understand why we're having this whole thread. Sorry. It seem

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 16:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I don't see how this would solve the issue at hand. Installation of a > manual is a system-wide action, whereas Rob wanted a way for a _user_ > to specify her preferred version(s) of the manual(s) to use at any > given moment. How the user acce

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:16:27 +0100 > From: Gavin Smith > Cc: 793...@bugs.debian.org, Texinfo > > On 3 August 2015 at 14:22, Gavin Smith wrote: > > I'm wondering if we can kill two birds with one stone here and get > > install-info to actually install the Info file as part of the > > solutio

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Rob Browning > Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:35:29 -0500 > > Karl Berry writes: > > > Here's what I don't get: suppose there are two versions of Emacs > > installed, emacs-x and emacs-y. Presumably Debian (and anyone else) has > > some method for the user to choose which one is invoked by

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 14:22, Gavin Smith wrote: > I'm wondering if we can kill two birds with one stone here and get > install-info to actually install the Info file as part of the > solution. So here's an idea. Add a --suffix option to install-info and at the same time allow using a directory in t

Re: Bug#793067: Bug#792328: info: can no longer find the Emacs manual

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Smith
On 3 August 2015 at 01:40, Rob Browning wrote: > - There's an easy way to ask specifically for the "foo X" pages. I > suppose X might be program specific, but all of the values I can > think of right now are of the form N or N.M. (i.e. GCC 5.0, Python > 2.7, Python 3.4, Emacs 24.4 (