Re: makeinfo 5.0 is 34x slower when building Emacs info

2013-02-20 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/20/2013 04:20 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mi, 20 Feb 2013, Per Bothner wrote: would be C++: It has modularity, better standard higher-level libraries than C, performance, and portability. (I'd be tempted I disagree with the portability aspect. perl with the standard modules is much

Re: makeinfo 5.0 is 34x slower when building Emacs info

2013-02-20 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 20 Feb 2013, Per Bothner wrote: > would be C++: It has modularity, better standard higher-level > libraries than C, performance, and portability. (I'd be tempted I disagree with the portability aspect. perl with the standard modules is much more portable then whatever C++ code one can wri

Re: makeinfo 5.0 is 34x slower when building Emacs info

2013-02-20 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/20/2013 03:41 PM, Karl Berry wrote: If I, or someone else, had come forward to write something with equivalent functionality in C, then we'd have it in C. No one did and I doubt anyone ever will. So, given the choice between leaving makeinfo essentially as it is forever and moving forward

Re: makeinfo 5.0 is 34x slower when building Emacs info

2013-02-20 Thread Karl Berry
but 224 seconds with texinfo 5.0 Paul - of course we were greatly concerned about the slowdown. That's why I specifically mentioned it in the announcement and NEWS file and documentation. The short answer is no, nothing can be done. If/Since you edit Texinfo files often enough that it's so

Re: @top & @nocde before change was Re: RTEMS and texinfo-5.0

2013-02-20 Thread Joel Sherrill
On 2/20/2013 4:20 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 04:07:53PM -0600, Joel Sherrill wrote: The combination I lucked into was: = @node Top, Introduction, (dir), (dir) @top Getting Started With RTEMS This is the online version of the Get

Re: makeinfo 5.0 is 34x slower when building Emacs info

2013-02-20 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 06:25:08PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > Running Emacs's 'make info' takes 6.5 seconds with texinfo 4.13, > but 224 seconds with texinfo 5.0, a factor of 34 slowdown. > It's now quite a wait for me to run 'make info', and this > is an annoyance -- can this be sped up? It is a

Re: @top & @nocde before change was Re: RTEMS and texinfo-5.0

2013-02-20 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 04:07:53PM -0600, Joel Sherrill wrote: > > > The combination I lucked into was: > > = > @node Top, Introduction, (dir), (dir) > @top Getting Started With RTEMS > > This is the online version of the Getting Started with RTEMS. >

texi2html -> texi2any conversion help

2013-02-20 Thread Joel Sherrill
Hi I have put together a tarball of our shortest manual. It has use_texi2html with a simplified version of our texi2html invocation and our texi2html_init file. Rather than bounce a bunch of stupid emails, I would appreciate if you could provide the equivalent texi2any versions. Then I can try

Re: @top & @nocde before change was Re: RTEMS and texinfo-5.0

2013-02-20 Thread Joel Sherrill
On 2/19/2013 5:00 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 04:42:46PM -0600, Joel Sherrill wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:36 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: And to make matters worse, at least the way I fixed this is broken with 4.13. :( /home/joel/rtems-4.11-work/rtems//doc/started/started.texi:59: @t

Re: makeinfo 5.0 is 34x slower when building Emacs info

2013-02-20 Thread John Darrington
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 06:25:08PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: Running Emacs's 'make info' takes 6.5 seconds with texinfo 4.13, but 224 seconds with texinfo 5.0, a factor of 34 slowdown. It's now quite a wait for me to run 'make info', and this is an annoyance -- can this be sped