Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-03 Thread Alain Magloire
> First, thanks for taking the time to respond some of the inquiries. > >> where do you go when the user asks to go to "install"? > > am> Ho! I do not know. But it should not matter, we parse the > am> makefile and provide the users with a list of the targets. In > am> your example sh

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-03 Thread Noel Yap
"Paul D. Smith" wrote: > Yes, not only in theory but in fact. > > But what I'm saying is that if you're providing a capability to jump to > where a target is defined, you'll have to pick one of those. How do you > choose which one? Or do you list the install target 3 times? Not that I agree wit

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-03 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Alain Magloire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> where do you go when the user asks to go to "install"? am> Ho! I do not know. But it should not matter, we parse the am> makefile and provide the users with a list of the targets. In am> your example should not the "install" targets be

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-02 Thread Alain Magloire
> > am> It looks like a Class View, the widget is a tree, that shows the > am> directives of the makefile, it turns out to be practical, for > am> makefile browsing etc .. select a node it position the editor > am> cursor at the right place, future could do some quick action, like > am>

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-02 Thread Alain Magloire
> > Alain Magloire wrote: > > I am just looking for feedbacks on how to tackle the issue, maybe the answer > > is not to change make and build other tools around it that can exploit its > > build paradigm? > > The goals are simple, help the users in the development cycle. > > We have a standard,

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-02 Thread Noel Yap
Alain Magloire wrote: > I am just looking for feedbacks on how to tackle the issue, maybe the answer > is not to change make and build other tools around it that can exploit its > build paradigm? > The goals are simple, help the users in the development cycle. We have a standard, well-documented m

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-02 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Alain Magloire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: am> It looks like a Class View, the widget is a tree, that shows the am> directives of the makefile, it turns out to be practical, for am> makefile browsing etc .. select a node it position the editor am> cursor at the right place, future co

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-02 Thread Alain Magloire
> > am> Let's start with a few: > > am> 1) Error Parsing. > > What about it? > > am> 2) Makefile editing/parsing. > > Why is editing makefiles something that GNU make needs to handle? There > are things like Emacs makefile mode, for example, that already do a very > nice job of this. >

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-02 Thread Alain Magloire
Bonjour > am> (1) && (2) > am> I've dealt with those a little differently: by providing in the > am> IDE a Makefile Editor that understands GNU peculiar(really > am> peculiar/inconsistent 8-) syntax, it provides: > > There's nothing about GNU make syntax that's more peculiar or > inconsi

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-01 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Alain Magloire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: am> Let's start with a few: am> 1) Error Parsing. What about it? am> 2) Makefile editing/parsing. Why is editing makefiles something that GNU make needs to handle? There are things like Emacs makefile mode, for example, that already do a v

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-01 Thread Alain Magloire
> am> For example to do a real Progress monitor, meaning how to provide > am> feedback to the users on how many commands done so far and how > am> many left ? > > First, make can't tell you how many commands are left because it doesn't > know. This came up a few weeks ago. The way make wor

Re: GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-01 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Alain Magloire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: am> For example to do a real Progress monitor, meaning how to provide am> feedback to the users on how many commands done so far and how am> many left ? First, make can't tell you how many commands are left because it doesn't know. This came

GNU make integration through an IDE

2003-10-01 Thread Alain Magloire
Bonjour Integrating make as the underlying engine ... is not easy 8-) For example to do a real Progress monitor, meaning how to provide feedback to the users on how many commands done so far and how many left ? How to extract information from make, i.e. make has all sort of information