[PATCH 6/6] I added in links to the subhurds page

2024-05-25 Thread jbra...@dismail.de
Using the website just now, I had to search the internet to find the subhurd page. Perhaps these link will help others find the right page. * documenation.mdwn: add a link to subhurds * hurd.mdwn: add a link to subhurds * hurd/documentation: add a link to subhurds --- documentation.mdwn

Re: Making Subhurds great again!

2017-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Justus Winter, on mar. 14 mars 2017 19:40:37 +0100, wrote: > SCNR. Seriously, use Subhurds, they're great. The best. Use Subhurds. :D Thanks! Samuel

Making Subhurds great again!

2017-03-14 Thread Justus Winter
Hello :) last year some commie bastard took away the privileges of our Subhurds! Tearable! And worse, the processes of our poor Subhurds were weird looking as before, but no longer debuggable. Sad. But fear not, my friends, for I made Subhurds great again: teythoon@hurdbox ~ % ps PID TT

Re: Unprivileged Subhurds

2014-11-13 Thread Richard Braun
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:44:12PM +0100, Justus Winter wrote: > Well, the proc server registers for these notifications. I'll add > this RPC to the process protocol: This looks good to me. I like that it relies on the kernel for security, but that it's also minimalist. -- Richard Braun

Re: Unprivileged Subhurds

2014-11-13 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Richard Braun (2014-11-13 12:25:14) > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:09:03PM +0100, Justus Winter wrote: > > Possession of the privileged host control port, and it is only > > possible to register for these notifications once. > > How does this recurse in the subhurd ? Well, the proc server r

Re: Unprivileged Subhurds

2014-11-13 Thread Richard Braun
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:09:03PM +0100, Justus Winter wrote: > Possession of the privileged host control port, and it is only > possible to register for these notifications once. How does this recurse in the subhurd ? -- Richard Braun

Re: Unprivileged Subhurds

2014-11-13 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Richard Braun (2014-11-13 11:30:20) > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 04:49:07PM +0100, Justus Winter wrote: > > Overall it's looking good, time to get the discussion going. > > What privilege is required to request these notifications ? Possession of the privileged host control port, and it is o

Re: Unprivileged Subhurds

2014-11-13 Thread Richard Braun
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 04:49:07PM +0100, Justus Winter wrote: > Overall it's looking good, time to get the discussion going. What privilege is required to request these notifications ? -- Richard Braun

Unprivileged Subhurds

2014-11-12 Thread Justus Winter
Hello, I'm trying to get unprivileged Subhurds to work. The first part of the puzzle is in fact a tiny kernel patch to provide a robust parental relationship of tasks to userspace. Currently, /hurd/proc relies on posixesque processes to call proc_child to form a process hierarchy. I'

Re: cgroupfs, /hurd/proc and subhurds

2013-09-17 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= (2013-09-17 13:47:23) > Hi! > > Justus Winter <4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> skribis: > > > Linux has this feature called cgroups. It groups processes (threads) > > together in groups, furthermore so called controllers can be used to > > restrict the

Re: cgroupfs, /hurd/proc and subhurds

2013-09-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi! Justus Winter <4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> skribis: > Linux has this feature called cgroups. It groups processes (threads) > together in groups, furthermore so called controllers can be used to > restrict the use of various resources (like cpu time, memory) on a > per-group basis. Isn

cgroupfs, /hurd/proc and subhurds

2013-09-16 Thread Justus Winter
Hi :) this mail discusses my recent attempts of creating a cgroupfs, related problems and issues I encountered so far. Problem statement = Linux has this feature called cgroups. It groups processes (threads) together in groups, furthermore so called controllers can be used to res

Re: snapshotting/versioning filesystems (was: subhurds etc.)

2009-11-09 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Freitag, 6. November 2009 21:51:08 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > As far as I know they didn't have atomic commits back then - am I > > right in that? What I mean is if they tried to version single files (like cvs) or just the filesystem state (like Mercurial / Git / ...). > > How exac

snapshotting/versioning filesystems (was: subhurds etc.)

2009-11-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 10:46:48AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. November 2009 13:52:47 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > The original idea for versioning filesystems was to automatically > > keep track of individual changes, and it failed magnificently. > > As far

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-11-04 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 01:52:47PM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:51:43PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > I do backups of sensitive information, but the reason I want a > > snapshotting filesystem for is automated decision when to do the > > backup. >

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-11-04 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 1. November 2009 13:52:47 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > The original idea for versioning filesystems was to automatically keep > track of individual changes, and it failed magnificently. As far as I know they didn't have atomic commits back then - am I right in that? > This is

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-11-03 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:51:43PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > I do backups of sensitive information, but the reason I want a > snapshotting filesystem for is automated decision when to do the > backup. There is no automated decision, that was my whole point! The original idea for version

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-10-28 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Montag, 26. Oktober 2009 07:22:28 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > I have some vague ideas how such partial subhurds could be used; but not > really much of an idea how such a setup would look like exactly... > Probably needs some very concrete use case(s) to work from. Can you thin

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-10-28 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 07:22:28AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 03:38:08PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > I'd like to have a snapshotting filesystem at my box, because having > > experienced the possibility to roll anything back in git, I'd be happy >

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-10-28 Thread olafBuddenhagen
; > > Yes. Reusing most of the original system environment, and only > > replacing specific bits you are interested in. > > I see. I've always thought that sub-hurds worked in this way right > now :-( Is it very hard to make things work like this, or is it the > lack of

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 01:58:52AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:46:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:59:49AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net > > wrote: > > > > It's much more interesting to have a partially customized > > >

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 01:58:52 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > The snapshotting filesystems we are seeing now OTOH avoid all this, by > not trying to track individual changes, but rather only creating > snaphots of the current state on explicit request. (With manual > triggering, or ti

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-09-22 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:46:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:59:49AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net > wrote: > > It's much more interesting to have a partially customized > > environment *without* booting a complete extra system instance; but > > rather accessin

Re: subhurds etc. (was: Hiding nodes with unionmount)

2009-08-18 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:59:49AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:14:32AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > > And it would be nice to be able to just use the same base Hurd for the > > main hurd and all subhurds - it needs

subhurds etc. (was: Hiding nodes with unionmount)

2009-08-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
ervers. > As soon as the "subhurd needs root" issue is solved, it should allow > every normal user to boot his own system. Indeed. > And it would be nice to be able to just use the same base Hurd for the > main hurd and all subhurds - it needs a readonly mounted partition

Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - subhurds and subusers

2008-11-12 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Samstag 08 November 2008 12:20:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > It's definitely far out, though. > > Not as far out as some of the other ideas discussed here... The > necessary stuff should be quite possible to implement in a couple of > months or even weeks I think. It requires a proxy for the

Re: subhurds (ext2fs) vs. sparse files

2007-02-09 Thread Roland McGrath
> Booting a subhurd from a file system that resides on a sparse file > currently fails like this: ``ext2fs: pseudo-root: panic: > get_hypermetadata: disk size (115085312 bytes) too small; superblock says > we need 419430400''. This comes from the size of the store reported by libstore. Try storei

subhurds (ext2fs) vs. sparse files

2007-02-09 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! Booting a subhurd from a file system that resides on a sparse file currently fails like this: ``ext2fs: pseudo-root: panic: get_hypermetadata: disk size (115085312 bytes) too small; superblock says we need 419430400''. I can see in the source code (`ext2fs/hyper.c') where this is stemming

Re: subhurds

2006-08-06 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 07:59:23PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Are subhurds meant to be bootable by ordinary mortals? > > As Marcus and Roland mentioned, this in theory works but in practice > is not well

Re: subhurds

2006-08-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are subhurds meant to be bootable by ordinary mortals? As Marcus and Roland mentioned, this in theory works but in practice is not well explored. I believe that it is important that it really work, so this is a good tasklist item

Re: subhurds

2006-08-04 Thread Roland McGrath
Yeah, what Marcus said. It should work. I vaguely recall there being some strange complexities in doing it, like proc not having the host-priv port. If you investigate the failure, we'll remember what the issues are. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd

Re: subhurds

2006-08-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:01:20 +0200, Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [1 ] > [1.1 ] > Hello! > > Are subhurds meant to be bootable by ordinary mortals? Trying this > currently looks like this: As far as I remember there was some support for subhurds r

subhurds

2006-08-04 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! Are subhurds meant to be bootable by ordinary mortals? Trying this currently looks like this: #v+ $ boot -D subhurd subhurd/boot/script.boot subhurd.ext2fs boot: /hurd/ext2fs.static: mach_port_insert_right: (os/kern) invalid value