Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Adam Olsen
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:24:22PM +0100, Niels M?ller wrote: > Or use morse code to the PC speaker ;-) Ugh, don't even mention that. We could take the linux driver to put normal sound on a PC Speaker, and use the Festival program to produce speech. We could have it verbally announce the crash

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Roland McGrath
> when we use a true user space console which accesses the gva graphic card at > the hardware level (I/O ports, mapped memory), we will face some interesting > races with the kernel. I don't think the kernel ever ought to compete. In Linux, even if you run X on tty1 (vt1) I don't think the conso

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Niels Möller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have a kernel log device to retrieve them. It's just that if everything > is going down, you probably want to see the last words of the kernel at the > console, because that's your only chance. Well, if the kernel doesn't know gfx hardware (whic

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:24:22PM +0100, Niels Möller wrote: > For serious debugging of kernel panics, you'd want to use a gdb on the > serial line, or a real crash dump for post-mortem debugging (I'm not > very familiar with crash dump feature, but I think it means writing > the system state ont

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 08:45:41PM +0100, Niels Möller wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am not sure we can do anything reasonable about it. Disabling the kernel > > messages would be the cure for corruption, but it might make you miss out on > > important messages fr

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Niels Möller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am not sure we can do anything reasonable about it. Disabling the kernel > messages would be the cure for corruption, but it might make you miss out on > important messages from the kernel. I guess the natural solution is to have the kernel send

console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, when we use a true user space console which accesses the gva graphic card at the hardware level (I/O ports, mapped memory), we will face some interesting races with the kernel. I am not so worried about the normal operation (setting cursor etc) although it would be neat to avoid races there,