Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-26 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Is it possible to compare L4 and Mach side-by-side and have list of features that are there in L4? Not easily, the differences are just to big. One can make quite a crude sketch of what the differences are, but not side-by-side in a detailed fashion. Is the design of Mach flawed or is i

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-26 Thread Ashish Gokhale
Hi All, Is it possible to compare L4 and Mach side-by-side and have list of features that are there in L4? Is the design of Mach flawed or is it the implementation that lacks the original vision? Or the focus is changing too fast from one option to the other ? - Ashish --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-22 Thread Sergio Lopez
El mié, 21-12-2005 a las 02:20 +0100, Gianluca Guida escribió: > Hi there, > > On 12/20/05, Sergio Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've written a list of tasks that I think we need to improve in GNU > > Mach. If you find anything missing here, please feel free to add a entry > > with a short

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
That depends on your definition of what a new microkernel is. If the changes you need to make are very fundamental, the result is arguably a new microkernel. New in the sense: Drop GNU Mach, use something else. Changing GNU Mach to suit our needs so that it becomes vastly different is n

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 03:43:56PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >There are some problems with Mach which seem very hard or even >impossible to fix without using a new microkernel. > > Impossible it is not, very hard it is or might be, but so is porting > to a new kernel, which is infact

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:45:05 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A couple of years ago, Marcus (and some others), more and more exposed > to the problems in Mach, made the claim that Hurd/Mach has no future, > and further developement should be directed to a port to a modern > microkernel like L4.

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
I'm looking for improve my skills and I would like to help too. What can I do? ;) It all depends on what your skills are, but running through the bug reports in the bug tracker, and double checking what still happens, and what doesn't is a good start. Making proper bug testcases is also a

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Matheus Morais
On 12/21/05, Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:    Unless someone has problem with me or the points listed I can   volunteer on working and reporting about the first two tasks, that   is:   * Clean up the Code. (Assigned to: We need YOU here!)   * Update the core architecture and d

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
There are some problems with Mach which seem very hard or even impossible to fix without using a new microkernel. Impossible it is not, very hard it is or might be, but so is porting to a new kernel, which is infact even harder. For that reason, we are looking at other microkernels. We

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, > please excuse my ignorance, but what's the Status of GNU Mach? I heard > the L4 microkernel is favored for the Hurd. Do you guys try to catch > up? Well, the question is, favored by whom? It's actually quite a long story, and also I weren't around to get all of it first hand; but I'll try t

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
please excuse my ignorance, but what's the Status of GNU Mach? I heard the L4 microkernel is favored for the Hurd. Do you guys try to catch up? GNU Mach has always been favoured over L4 since it has always worked. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bu

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Unless someone has problem with me or the points listed I can volunteer on working and reporting about the first two tasks, that is: * Clean up the Code. (Assigned to: We need YOU here!) * Update the core architecture and drivers. (Assigned to: We need YOU here!) Please st

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:38:50AM +0100, Patrick Leslie Polzer wrote: > Hello list, Hi, > please excuse my ignorance, but what's the Status of GNU Mach? GNU Mach is currently the only microkernel which is supported by the Hurd. That is: If you want to run Hurd, you need Mach. That may change,

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-21 Thread Patrick Leslie Polzer
Hello list, please excuse my ignorance, but what's the Status of GNU Mach? I heard the L4 microkernel is favored for the Hurd. Do you guys try to catch up? Kind regards, Leslie -- PGP-KID: 0x52D70289 pgpa1pTuqUMtq.pgp Description: PGP signature _

Re: Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-20 Thread Gianluca Guida
Hi there, On 12/20/05, Sergio Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've written a list of tasks that I think we need to improve in GNU > Mach. If you find anything missing here, please feel free to add a entry > with a short description. > > http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Mach/GNUMachRevivalProjec

Tasks list for GNU Mach

2005-12-20 Thread Sergio Lopez
Hello! I've written a list of tasks that I think we need to improve in GNU Mach. If you find anything missing here, please feel free to add a entry with a short description. http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Mach/GNUMachRevivalProject Happy Hacking! -- Sergio Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] _