Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:11:54PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 17. November 2009 00:35:30 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > It's actually perfectly OK to override text colors for emphasis in > > specific bits of text -- if you also override the background color > >

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 02:18:10PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Montag, 16. November 2009 11:34:22 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > I think the reason is simply that it's damn far from how I learned > webdesign. > > Instead of the smooth learning curve you get by defining more and mor

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 17. November 2009 00:31:30 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > No idea what you mean. If a user sets his default background color, we > can safely assume that he also sets a matching default text color... The Konqueror bug I cited is the problem, not the Hurd Website. Sadly it took m

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 17. November 2009 00:35:30 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > It's actually perfectly OK > to override text colors for emphasis in specific bits of text -- if you > also override the background color *for these same bits of text*. The > rest of the page can keep default colors for both

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:17:59PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 19:44:57 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > > So you can either have completely colorless pages > > ...and lose the wide range of options you have when you use colors for > different parts of the

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:58:44AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 01:42:19 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > (Not everyone likes reading text on a white background! It > > regularily makes my eyes hurt. I wonder what morons created the myth > > that i

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/17 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Dienstag, 17. November 2009 14:32:29 schrieb Michal Suchanek: >> Similarly, if you want to put a single warning sign somewhere in >> yellow on red then you just add it. If you want your site to have some >> particular text color you better ensure that you def

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 17. November 2009 14:32:29 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > Similarly, if you want to put a single warning sign somewhere in > yellow on red then you just add it. If you want your site to have some > particular text color you better ensure that you define a background > on which the text is

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-17 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/17 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Montag, 16. November 2009 23:07:33 schrieb Michal Suchanek: >> It's not all or none. You can use different text style and size, >> alignment, spacing, borders, ... and colors. >> >> But whenever you touch an aspect of the site, be it colors, text >> style, or

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Montag, 16. November 2009 23:07:33 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > It's not all or none. You can use different text style and size, > alignment, spacing, borders, ... and colors. > > But whenever you touch an aspect of the site, be it colors, text > style, or anything else you must ensure that it wo

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-16 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/16 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Montag, 16. November 2009 11:34:22 schrieb Michal Suchanek: >> > If you set the background, you also have to set all other colors, else >> > the custom user color for a visited link could be invisible. >> >> Yes, that's how things work. Why is it so hard to a

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Montag, 16. November 2009 11:34:22 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > > If you set the background, you also have to set all other colors, else > > the custom user color for a visited link could be invisible. > > Yes, that's how things work. Why is it so hard to accept for you? I think the reason is si

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-16 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/15 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 19:44:57 schrieb Michal Suchanek: >> They can offer alternate dark and bright themes. > > But that requires setting all colors again. > > It makes it impossible for people to get into webdesign bit by bit - either > you define all c

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 23:17:59 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide: > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 19:44:57 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > > They can offer alternate dark and bright themes. > > But that requires setting all colors again. And thinking your stance a bit further gets us to "each site

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 19:44:57 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > They can offer alternate dark and bright themes. But that requires setting all colors again. It makes it impossible for people to get into webdesign bit by bit - either you define all colors or you leave your hands off colorchang

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/15 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 16:27:13 schrieb Michal Suchanek: >> Yes, you either set all colors or set none, anything else is broken >> (as is your web site). > > That's a quite extreme view - and mine differs. It's not extreme. It's based on observed behavio

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 16:27:13 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > Yes, you either set all colors or set none, anything else is broken > (as is your web site). That's a quite extreme view - and mine differs. I prefer websites which I visit to set colors so they work in both dark and bright setti

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/15 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 14:55:09 schrieb Michal Suchanek: >> You cannot make a site which has no background, has text color set, >> and expect it to be readable. The default background color may be any >> color, including the one you chose for some of your

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 14:55:09 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > You cannot make a site which has no background, has text color set, > and expect it to be readable. The default background color may be any > color, including the one you chose for some of your text. You can try to fit the most comm

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Michal Suchanek
2009/11/15 Arne Babenhauserheide : > Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 01:42:19 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: >> (Not everyone likes reading text on a white background! It regularily >> makes my eyes hurt. I wonder what morons created the myth that it would >> be more ergonomic :-( ) > > I currently

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 15. November 2009 01:42:19 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > (Not everyone likes reading text on a white background! It regularily > makes my eyes hurt. I wonder what morons created the myth that it would > be more ergonomic :-( ) I currently read with a dark grey background, but when

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-14 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:03:10PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I just fixed that by putting "background-color: white;" into the body > tag in local.css I hate sites doing that :-( Once CSS forces the background color, there is no reasonable way to work around it. (Not everyone lik

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-13 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:28:54PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 19:42:11 schrieb Carl Fredrik Hammar: > > Why wasn't it readable? If it was because the font color was still black > > (my first guess), then shouldn't we change that instead, so that the > >

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-12 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 19:42:11 schrieb Carl Fredrik Hammar: > Why wasn't it readable? If it was because the font color was still black > (my first guess), then shouldn't we change that instead, so that the > font color is also the browser's default? That's the other option :) It's si

Re: website: background color in css

2009-11-12 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:03:10PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > I'm currently browsing in "dark mode" (dark colors for my KDE 4), and > realized > that the website wasn't very readable with dark background color. > > I just fixed that by putting "background-color: white;" into