Re: Google Summer of Code

> That's not true, otherwise noone would use agile software development > with OOP. You have a very rigid, almost V-model way to think about this. Yes, Maybe It's not necessary an exhaustive analysis. But, anyway, It's necessary to define what is our objective, define an ideal architecture (drawin

Re: Google Summer of Code

On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 10:18:35AM +0100, Almudena Garcia wrote: > To do a "serious work" as OOP, It's necessary to think about the current > work, separating the pieces of the project, thinking what relationship will > be between the pieces... Write empty code structures, without a previous > reth

Re: Google Summer of Code

> I don't think that you need to apologize for your opinion. Thanks. I don't want you are angry with me by this reason. I simply want to explain my situation about this project. > I will say that Richard is *very* knowledgeable. Yes, I know. The ideas about to use OOP structure in the code, add te

Re: Google Summer of Code

I don't think that you need to apologize for your opinion. I will say that Richard is *very* knowledgeable. Any hints that you can get from him are bound to be useful. -- Joshua Branson Sent from Emacs and Gnus

Re: Google Summer of Code

> I think any work that is meant to last and ends up in a form that > isn't fit for long term maintenance isn't serious work. I'm sorry, but I continue seeing the OOP redesign as a long term objective, but not appropriated as GSOC main objective. But It's possible to do little refactors to prepare

Re: Google Summer of Code

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 08:58:41PM +0100, Almudena Garcia wrote: > > That's not exactly what I mean. Let's talk on IRC to sort this out. > > I've not seen you today in freenode, so I'll write my opinion here: I'm always on IRC, just not in #hurd. You can message me directly. > I think that a bet

Re: Google Summer of Code

> That's not exactly what I mean. Let's talk on IRC to sort this out. I've not seen you today in freenode, so I'll write my opinion here: I've been thinking about our conversation some days ago. Although redesign all SMP code as OOP (adding abstractions for isolate machine-specific code), is a go

Re: Google Summer of Code

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 05:09:38PM +0100, Almudena Garcia wrote: > I'm a student, and my knowledge is limited. But, in my previous SMP work, I > got develop most tasks guided by more experienced developers than me. > If any person is able to guide my work, teaching me the most important > concepts

Re: Google Summer of Code

> It will require a lot of work on your side. If you're going to do this, you need to make sure you are able to > commit to the task. I'm a student, and my knowledge is limited. But, in my previous SMP work, I got develop most tasks guided by more experienced developers than me. If any person is a

Re: Google Summer of Code

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:48:26AM +0100, Almudena Garcia wrote: > > Thanks for your interest! As Joshua wrote: "need to find a Hurd > > developer to mentor you". > > Are there any volunteer for this? > I need anyone with knowledge in this area (and with a bit of patience, > anyway) because I'm a

Re: Google Summer of Code

> Yes, and now waiting for Google to decide. See > . Ok, I'll wait for this > Thanks for your interest! As Joshua wrote: "need to find a Hurd > developer to mentor you". Are there any volunteer for this? I need anyone wit

Re: Google Summer of Code

Hi! On 2020-01-26T20:05:46+0100, Almudena Garcia wrote: > Does anyone knows if this year GNU apply to GSOC? > The deadline is February 5. > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/get-started/ Yes, and now waiting for Google to decide. See

Re: Google Summer of Code

Well I believe that almost always GNU gets accepted as a GSOC mentee organization. I suppose you would need to find a Hurd developer to mentor you. -- Joshua Branson Sent from Emacs and Gnus

Re: Google Summer of Code projects for the GNU C Library.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:23:28 +0100, I wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:14:45 -0500, "Carlos O'Donell" wrote: > > The GNU Project is participating in GSoC 2014 and have asked > > individual GNU projects to nominate their own GSoC projects > > under their umbrella. > >

Re: Google Summer of Code projects for the GNU C Library.

Hi! On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:23:28 +0100, I wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:14:45 -0500, "Carlos O'Donell" > wrote: > > The GNU Project is participating in GSoC 2014 and have asked > > individual GNU projects to nominate their own GSoC projects > > under their umbrella. > > > > We have proposed a

Re: Google Summer of Code projects for the GNU C Library.

Hi! On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:14:45 -0500, "Carlos O'Donell" wrote: > The GNU Project is participating in GSoC 2014 and have asked > individual GNU projects to nominate their own GSoC projects > under their umbrella. > > We have proposed an initial three projects for the GNU C Library > and you can

Re: Google summer of code 2013

Thomas Schwinge writes: > I can send patches for the following if you prefer, but it's just > copy'n'paste. For GNU Hurd, please copy the entry from > ; we're > working on updating or list of project ideas. Any reason not to add a >

Re: Google summer of code 2013

Hi! On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:42:44 +0100, jema...@gnu.org (Jose E. Marchesi) wrote: > As it is usual, this year GNU will be applying to become a Google Summer > of Code [0] organization. Provided we get selected I will be the org > admin and Giuseppe Scrivano will volunteer as the co-admin. > - If

RE: [Google Summer of Code 2013] - Mozilla Rust language bindings

Hi! On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:07:39 +1300, "Nolan Tunnicliffe" wrote: > I don't mind where a Rust port to Hurd is discussed. To get some of > the technical answers regarding Rust though you may need to ask > on reddit.com or maybe the rust-...@mozilla.org. Although I will > research what I can. I

Re: [Google Summer of Code 2013] - Mozilla Rust language bindings

Nolan Tunnicliffe, le Fri 15 Feb 2013 17:07:39 +1300, a écrit : > >Samuel Thibault wrote > >I however have to say you probably underestimate the amount of work > >needed to write a driver. The language can help in some way, but not > >very much. The main part of difficulty is to manage to unde

RE: [Google Summer of Code 2013] - Mozilla Rust language bindings

I don't mind where a Rust port to Hurd is discussed. To get some of the technical answers regarding Rust though you may need to ask on reddit.com or maybe the rust-...@mozilla.org. Although I will research what I can. I'm not a language developer myself. I'm not a student so I can't participate

Re: [Google Summer of Code 2013] - Mozilla Rust language bindings

Hello, Well, porting Rust to GNU/Hurd definitely can be useful, so your project is more than welcome in that regard. I however have to say you probably underestimate the amount of work needed to write a driver. The language can help in some way, but not very much. The main part of difficulty is

Re: [Google Summer of Code 2013] - Mozilla Rust language bindings

Hi! On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:26:46 +1300, "Nolan Tunnicliffe" wrote: > http://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/18dfd6/gsoc_2013_started_any_rust_project_ideas/ Thanks for this proposal (the very first we (GNU Hurd) get this year)! Looks like a good project to me. As you posted it on , I'll assume

Re: [Google Summer of Code 2013] - Mozilla Rust language bindings

Hi! On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:26:46 +1300, "Nolan Tunnicliffe" wrote: > http://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/18dfd6/gsoc_2013_started_any_rust_project_ideas/ Thanks for this proposal (the very first we (GNU Hurd) get this year)! Looks like a good project to me. As you posted it on , I'll assume

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello, On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:55 PM, wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:21:42PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, wrote: >> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:56:04PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > >> > The idea was to create new branches in the existing unionfs >>

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hi, On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:21:42PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, wrote: > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:56:04PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > The idea was to create new branches in the existing unionfs > > repository, rather than creating another repositor

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello, On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:56:04PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > >> >> FYI, I want to create a new repository at github... >> > >> > Of course you're free to do that, but why not simply use the >> > Savannah repository? >> >> Oh, I was thinking o

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hi, On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:56:04PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > >> FYI, I want to create a new repository at github... > > > > Of course you're free to do that, but why not simply use the > > Savannah repository? > > Oh, I was thinking of that, but I don't really have Savannah > experience.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 09:25:54PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Thomas Schwinge wrote: >> > -- but please do not >> > yet >> > push changes there. > > I see no reason to any longer hold off with pushing chan

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello! On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 09:25:54PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > -- but please do not > > yet > > push changes there. I see no reason to any longer hold off with pushing chang

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello, On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > -- but please do not yet > push changes there. I beg my pardon for a bit of a silly question: if I want to fork unionfs from this repository, should I use git clone, git checkout

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello, Thomas Schwinge writes: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:49:01AM +0200, I wrote: >> So, I'd rather go for the conversion method, to not hide the previous >> history.  And, as I'm already in this dirty business -- a bunch of the >> main Hurd's repositories and their branches have already been p

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello! On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:49:01AM +0200, I wrote: > So, I'd rather go for the conversion method, to not hide the previous > history. And, as I'm already in this dirty business -- a bunch of the > main Hurd's repositories and their branches have already been published, > by the way -- I'm

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009; how to fork off the unionfs code base

Hello, Thomas Schwinge writes: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:05:44PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: >> I'm going to start implementing the VFS-style union mount functionality >> (http://preview.tinyurl.com/cpftg2). > > Congratulations for having gotten this GSoC project accepted! Sergiu > will be ou

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009

Hi, On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 09:20:00AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > I believe the friendly smileys to have an important psychological > effect: they have the express purpose of making the text less formal and > thus intimidating. Of course any other suggestion for making the texts les

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009

Hello, Thomas Schwinge, le Fri 06 Mar 2009 12:52:04 +0100, a écrit : > Also, we need mentors. Samuel? Sure. Samuel

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009

Hi, On Sat March 7 2009 11:20:00 olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 12:52:04PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > I do know that Olaf likes to use them, but what about making these > > texts more formally appealing and remove all (or most of) the smileys? > > I can onl

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009

Hi, On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 12:52:04PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > I do know that Olaf likes to use them, but what about making these > texts more formally appealing and remove all (or most of) the smileys? I can only repeat my petition to disable this idiotic image replacement -- it indeed

Re: Google Summer of Code participation

Hi, On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:03:29PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You would soon have to decide whether you want to apply as student > > again, or mentor the project. (Or just do it independently as you > > planned...) It's not possible to do both :-) > >

Re: Google Summer of Code participation

Hi, I read the project ideas list, and found "server overriding mechanism" is there. I have once tried investigating this issue, but failed to continue at last. Still, I wonder whether I should submit my modification to Glibc for an simple implementation of socket server overriding, though the wor

Re: Google Summer of Code participation

Hi, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Especially the project list needs work. Some of the project >> > descriptions are only skeletons; I lack the knowledge to fill in the >> > details. But I know that some of you have much better understanding >> > about some of these projects. >> >> I noticed `

Re: Google Summer of Code participation

Hi, On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:43:12PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Especially the project list needs work. Some of the project > > descriptions are only skeletons; I lack the knowledge to fill in the > > details. But I know that some of you have much better

Re: Google Summer of Code participation

Hello, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > For those who haven't heard it yet on IRC (and also a reminder for the > others): Unlike the last two years, when we only participated under the > umbrella of the GNU project, this year we want to participate in GSoC as > an organisation on our own. T

Re: Google Summer of Code project: libchannel

Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello! > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 09:22:12PM +0100, Fredrik Hammar wrote: >> first up let me introduce myself [...] > > Welcome, Fredrik! > Thanks! >> get it running on Xen. > > That basically works, but still has a number of sharp edges and slippe

Re: Google Summer of Code project: libchannel

Hello! On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 09:22:12PM +0100, Fredrik Hammar wrote: > first up let me introduce myself [...] Welcome, Fredrik! > get it running on Xen. That basically works, but still has a number of sharp edges and slippery slopes. But for sure we should document how to get it running at

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Hello! Thanks to all who provided me with comments! Here is the list I'm going to submit. We can still change it, based on your input. Unfortunately, the Savannah links are down at the moment, but that should be fixed tomorrow aftern

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Scribit Thomas Schwinge dies 13/03/2007 hora 17:12: > > Libchannel is a prerequisitive for many proposed projects. I think > > that any project that depends on it, should not be proposed. [...] > Also correct. However, if two people that are know to work together > want to work parallel to each o

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Hello! On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 09:18:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:27:09AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?5469 -- Rewrite pfinet > > > > The libchannel project should be done before, or at least in parallel, > > I'd say. > [...]

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Hi, On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:27:09AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?5469 -- Rewrite pfinet > > The libchannel project should be done before, or at least in parallel, > I'd say. [...] > http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?5485 -- Design and implement a sound > system >

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Hello! Thanks for the feedback! On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:09:25PM +0200, Constantine Kousoulos wrote: > IMHO, o GSoC project should be something doable that can be > completed within the given time. Too broad tasks should be avoided. Correct. However, it's often difficult to estimate whether

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

IMHO, o GSoC project should be something doable that can be completed within the given time. Too broad tasks should be avoided. Libchannel is a prerequisitive for many proposed projects. I think that any project that depends on it, should not be proposed. IMHO, each project should be independe

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Hi, On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:44:00PM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote: > Are we talking Debian specific stuff or no? This is about the FSF's GSoC project, so I don't think Debian-specific stuff would be appropriate. > There still the Debian installer afair. Yes, but after last year's fiasco, I'm

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Thomas Schwinge wrote: Hello! On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:14:30AM +0100, I wrote: Like they did last year, Google is again hosting a Summer of Code program in 2007. See . The GNU project is again going to apply for being a mentoring organization and has asked th

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

Hello! On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:14:30AM +0100, I wrote: > Like they did last year, Google is again hosting a Summer of Code program > in 2007. See . > > The GNU project is again going to apply for being a mentoring > organization and has asked the various GNU subpr