Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-12-14 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 09:07:48PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:20 AM, wrote: > > > I mean, should we adopt the idea of taking a BSD kernel, throwing out > > UNIX stuff, and implementing generic primitives as a possible

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-12-12 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 09:07:48PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:20 AM, wrote: > I mean, should we adopt the idea of taking a BSD kernel, throwing out > UNIX stuff, and implementing generic primitives as a possible roadmap. > Working in this direction we could possib

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-12-03 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:43:43PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:25 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think Marek's work is interesting on several levels. For one, Mach > > > was originally created by ta

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-12-02 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:43:43PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:25 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think Marek's work is interesting on several levels. For one, Mach > > was originally created by taking a BSD kernel, throwing out the UNIX > > stuff, and implem

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-25 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:25 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Marek's work is interesting on several levels. For one, Mach was > originally created by taking a BSD kernel, throwing out the UNIX stuff, > and implementing some generic primitives (IPC, external pager interface) > ins

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-24 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:25:58AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > BTW, after some pondering, I came to the conclusion that translators > on NetBSD are not a very good sign for the Hurd community, because > almost all PR actions Arne Babenhauserheide is undertaking are based > on translators. I

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-21 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Marek Dopiera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monday 17 of November 2008 14:34:23 Sergiu Ivanov napisał(a): > > Well, I wonder whether porting Hurd to NetBSD kernel would take less > > effort than it should have taken to port it to L4 or Coyotos. Still, > > both attem

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-19 Thread Marek Dopiera
Monday 17 of November 2008 14:34:23 Sergiu Ivanov napisał(a): > Well, I wonder whether porting Hurd to NetBSD kernel would take less > effort than it should have taken to port it to L4 or Coyotos. Still, > both attempts failed, and I am strongly inclined to think that it is > just infeasible (or ne

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-17 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:19 AM, massimo s. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sergiu Ivanov ha scritto: > > It might be interesting to you, that it's a trial to introduce the > > translators > > concept to NetBSD and the final goal is to provide binary > > compatibility with > > GN

Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-14 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Marek Dopiera < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Saturday 08 of November 2008 07:28:17 Sergiu Ivanov napisał(a): > > Please pardon me my question: why won't you contribute to Hurd > > directly now? Especially that you have some experience with it ;-) I'm > > just curiou

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-13 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:54:47PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > What I pursue with this question is whether a Gentoo GNU/Hurd would be > easier to maintain up-to-date with usual Gentoo repositories and > whether it would be possible to avoid situations like we are in at the > moment: some pa

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-12 Thread Marek Dopiera
Saturday 08 of November 2008 07:28:17 Sergiu Ivanov napisał(a): > Please pardon me my question: why won't you contribute to Hurd > directly now? Especially that you have some experience with it ;-) I'm > just curious, please don't think I meant something offensive with the > inquiry. > Hi, unfortun

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-11 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 07:08:30AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > However, do you mean that I can download the sources of emacs22 and > > they will build successfully on Hurd? > > Two weeks ago, that was the case: > > htt

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 07:08:30AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > However, do you mean that I can download the sources of emacs22 and > they will build successfully on Hurd? Two weeks ago, that was the case: http://buildd.debian-ports.org/fetch.php?&pkg=emacs22&ver=22.2%2B2-4&arch=hurd-i386&stamp=1

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-08 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:23:41AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > I see... Well, I hope I'll have some time to port emacs to Hurd, > > because, frankly speaking, it's uncomfortable for me to realize that > > *GNU* Emacs do

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-08 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:23:41AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > I see... Well, I hope I'll have some time to port emacs to Hurd, > because, frankly speaking, it's uncomfortable for me to realize that > *GNU* Emacs does not run on *GNU* Hurd... Maybe you're doing something wrong then, because GNU

Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-07 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Marek Dopiera < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thursday 06 of November 2008 12:11:17 Matthew Ayres napisał(a): > > Gentoo users are, naturally, more technically minded than users of > > many distros (Debian possibly being an exception here). The Gentoo > > meta-distro

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-07 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am Donnerstag 06 November 2008 15:53:53 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > > And since ebuilds are very easy to maintain, it's far easier to keep a > > > system > > > current with them. > > > > Is there any advantage over D

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-06 Thread Marek Dopiera
Thursday 06 of November 2008 12:11:17 Matthew Ayres napisał(a): > Gentoo users are, naturally, more technically minded than users of > many distros (Debian possibly being an exception here). The Gentoo > meta-distro is generally compiled from source and that naturally makes > it more automatic for

Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-06 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Donnerstag 06 November 2008 15:53:53 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > And since ebuilds are very easy to maintain, it's far easier to keep a > > system current with them. > > Is there any advantage over Debian binary packages when using ebuilds? Yes. As example I attached the ebuild for "nano". And

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-06 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Matthew Ayres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Sorry if the questions look senseless, I'm just trying to figure out > > what could be the goal of developing Gentoo GNU/Hurd. > > Gentoo users are, naturally, more technically minded than users of > many distros (Debian p

Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-06 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am Mittwoch 05 November 2008 21:38:09 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > Could you please tell me what Gentoo GNU/Hurd is exactly? Is it > > something similar to Debian GNU/Hurd, with the difference that it will > > have po

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-06 Thread Matthew Ayres
I'm planning to use Gentoo soon, so as someone who's done a lot of research I'll stick my oar in. > Is it > something similar to Debian GNU/Hurd, with the difference that it will > have portage, while Debian GNU/Hurd has apt? Essentially yes, that's the nature of Gentoo. It allows compilation fr

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-05 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 05 November 2008 21:38:09 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > Could you please tell me what Gentoo GNU/Hurd is exactly? Is it > something similar to Debian GNU/Hurd, with the difference that it will > have portage, while Debian GNU/Hurd has apt? Gentoo GNU/Hurd was/is a try at creating a Hurd Sys

Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-05 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I just wanted to tell you that the Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo forums > might be on its way to become active again: > Could you please tell me what Gentoo GNU/Hurd is exactly? Is it somet

Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-03 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, I just wanted to tell you that the Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo forums might be on its way to become active again: - http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-41939.html just skip to the last page to see current messages. Best wishes, Arne -- -- My stuff: http://draketo.de - stories