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Re: Building OSKit-Mach (texinfo format) - dead link w/patch

o. There's not link to it from the front page, I'm not sure how to make one unobtrusively. Maybe it'd be a better idea for one of the documentation sites to give it a home (hurddocs.sf.net maybe?). Sorry for any inconvenience. Igor ___

Re: More on oskit-mach debugging

Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 09:21:57AM -0400, Igor Khavkine wrote: > > Now if I was still linking with the version of oskit in the Hurd archives > > all my problems would be solved and I would be able to boot properly. > > However, I have compiled my

More on oskit-mach debugging

e value of phys_mem_va is also 0x0, hence `kaddr = 0x0'. My question is, when during oskit-mach's initialization does the paging turn on, and why isn't phys_mem_va set to the correct value? Thanks. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PR

Re: oskit-mach

address is smaller than PAGE_MASK (0xfff) and generates a panic. I don't know > what the idea about that check is, but it works when I remove it. I've always supposed that Roland didn't include the DC_NO_ONLCR flag on purpose, if not I hope he accepts your patch. Igor

More on oskit-mach and serial debugging

ine by line? Also is it possible to examine the contents of local variables? Also, pardon my ignorance :-) but what's the command to log a GDB session to a file? Thanks. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Signals, messages and exceptions

I not only want to know how it works, but also why it was designed a certain way. This is why these questions came up when I was reading the Hurd signal handling code. Has the second approach been considered during the initial design stage and simply thrown away for valid reasons, or has it just not

Re: Signals, messages and exceptions

se a more versatile feature to implement a less versatile one, if they are of similar nature. You suggested, that I was confused about the purpose of exceptions in Mach. Maybe I am, what is your take on this topic? Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Signals, messages and exceptions

On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:57:09PM -0400, Roland McGrath wrote: > I think you are confused about what Mach exceptions are. This is also possible. The Mach kernel interfaces docs are a bit thin on the subject. Could you enlighten me? Thanks. I

Signals, messages and exceptions

dle them. Both ways require a system call, so one is not more efficient then the other. The only reason I can see is that exceptions do not map directly to signals, but that's a very weak argument. Maybe it's one of those things that was done very long ago, no-one knows why, and no-one want

Re: a recursive lock prototype

27; and friends. I don't mind reading the relevant bits of code (from glibc? hurd?). But I'm not sure where to start. The next state after that is to deal with global initialization (the part that runs before main) and testing. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Conflict between glibc and Mach headers

constant macro `PAGE_SIZE'. Was it intended for these headers not to be used together? And why is there a variable for the page size, is it not a constant which can be known at compile time? Thanks. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thread creation and stack allocation

On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:27:17PM -0400, Igor Khavkine wrote: > > In this case, should the creation of the "red zone" be the programmer's > responsibility, or is there a way to create it with the library? > > It is also possible that I'm misinterpreting the st

Re: failure notice (bad subject)

The above is a misnamed subject, ignore it. It should read Subject: Thread creation and stack allocation ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

failure notice

rary? It is also possible that I'm misinterpreting the standard, if so, please let me know. Thanks. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Serial console and gnumach/oskit-mach

at the oskit distribution contains example kernels with gdb serial debugging support. I guess they weren't clearly labeled, which ones are they? Thanks. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: glibc/io/fts.c, MAXPATHLEN issue

First of all this shouldn't fail whether MAXPATHLEN is defined or not. I think the macro is misnamed, from the code it looks like it should be called MINPATHLEN. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Passive versus active translators

ges then no; you have the same > problems setting the passive translator. Refresh my memory, is a user with read only access to a file able to set up an active translator on that node? > > but by no means should the default ones be > > the same as the underlying node. > > This

Re: Passive versus active translators

anslator. > > The active translator should be started with the same ids that the > passive translator will be started with. I think you're getting off the wrong foot when you start assuming that any user can `sudo settrans' anytime. If someone who has root priveleges puts a tra

Re: Passive versus active translators

will certainly not find them in there. I think that the differences between the use of settrans and the waking of a passive translators differ in natural and necessary ways. The differences are akin to the startup of any program by a user, as opposed to automatic startup of a background daemon.

Re: Internal libc lock interface

pin_lock operations and there are non stub implementations for severa arch's. It contains very few definitions. So I think I'll add more definitions and use __spin_lock's throughout pthreads. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Internal libc lock interface

reimplement it on top of spin_lock's or pthread_mutex's? In the former case, how do I deal with rwlocks (what are these btw?) or recursive locks. In the latter I have to come up with a lower level generic interface to locks. Thanks. Igor __

Re: Annoying free inode warnings

n > > another terminal provided by `screen'. > > It writes directly to the console and screen never sees it (try > refreshing the console ^L). That works quite well, except that ext2fs is much more efficient at outputing those warnings than I am at pressing ^L to refresh the scr

Re: Annoying free inode warnings

ion for development that I use both in linux and Hurd. And when I run a build from that partition while in Hurd, an inane amount of these warnings floods the screen rendering it impossible to use even in another terminal provided by `screen'. Igor __

Internal library naming conventions

This is just a curiosity question and could be a bit of topic. Why is it that most libraries (like glibc) prefix all their functions with __. Even the ones that will eventually be exported. I've come up with two possible reasons: 1) avoid global namespace polution. This can also be avoided by gro

Re: posix_spawn

ed functions; most common cases where a program uses fork and exec > directly can be replaced by calls to posix_spawn et al. Just out of curiosity, is posix_spawn a standard interface? And is it reasonable for programs to expect to have it available on a system that say, doesn

vm_offset_t type

ong' is still 32 bits on 32bit architectures. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

oskit-mach won't boot

rather limited.) Any input and suggestions are very welcome. Igor P.S.: I came up with a new way to provide debug information while booting the kernel. "Debug by ear," just define these simple routines somewhere and whenever debug_beep() is used, it produces a PC speaker sound and a shor

Re: page fault in mach_msg_trap

put a "hlt" instruction in panic so I would have to manually reset the machine to reboot. But it did give me unlimited time to examine the error messages. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Interaction of pthreads and cthreads

ewrite the parts of glibc and hurd that use cthreads now? It seems that there should be no reason to have two competing thread implementations used in the same applications. Or is it too much work for little gain? Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list

Re: MIG->Corba

L4 for example. [ snip ] > > 2. The Hurd is intimately tied to glibc (sysdeps/hurd, sysdeps/mach/*) >and unthinkable with another libc. If you want to port the Hurd, >you _must_ currently also port glibc. This actually makes perfect sense. Hurd and glibc are part of

Re: MIG->Corba

ote machines by changing the "backend". The details depend on the ORB (object request broker). Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: MIG->Corba

t rely on obscure Mach features if it wants to be micro-kernel independent. And in any case the ability to support multiple languages and communication protocols through OMG's IDL would outweigh all other arguments. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: oskit-mach vs PGE

ing the PGE flag. I'll try compiling the kernel again after the holidays. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Small bug in libnetfs

I came across a potential segfault in the libnetfs code. Here's the patch. Igor Index: libnetfs/make-node.c === RCS file: /cvs/hurd/libnetfs/make-node.c,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 make-node.c --- libnetfs/make-n

Re: PPP port: Code for setting gateway

;, node_name); > } > > err = fsys_set_options (fsys, opt, 1, 1); > if (err) > { > log_Printf(LogERROR, "HURD: Failed to set option %s for node %s.", opt, > node_name); > error(5, err, "%s: %s", node_name, opt); > } > >

Re: Porting the Hurd to L4 (glibc dependencies, dropping glibc?)

t away (that's the hacking part) but that would profit from some discussions (that's the talking part). So that kind of list would be a good idea. For example it would redirect threads like the "filesystem-mimetypes extensions" that we had on debian-hurd a while back. Igor __

Re: reviving oskit-mach

up. Earlier I posted a list of headers that I deleted because they seemed redundant, you seemed to agree with most of them. You might want to check out the patch I produced with my source tree against the one pulled from CVS. http://alcor.concordia.ca/~i_khavki/ Igor _

Update on FPU emulation

why that's happening and whether the emulator's instruction decoder or my changes are at fault. Also note that it's a fairly big patch, that's because I've also been messing with my oskit-mach tree trying to eliminate redundancy with respect

Re: gnumach and oskit headers

;s not a question of "better flags". The flags need to be appropriate > for the segmentation setup the kernel is using. Mach sets up its own > segments for user mode. Point taken. Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: gnumach and oskit headers

> defines USER_CS to be 0x43 and i386/i386/ldt.h defines it to be 0x17. > > The low three bits of those values are flag bits to the hardware. > So which set of flags has advantage over the other? Igor gnumach.old/i386/: CVS/ Files Makefrag Subdirs i386/ i386at/ include/ intel/

gnumach and oskit headers

fines USER_CS to be 0x43 and i386/i386/ldt.h defines it to be 0x17. The macro names are the same and i've never seen a hardcoded value used it it's place, so is there a particular preference to either numerical value? Or is this question too trivial to b

Re: I've got it! (Re: oskit-mach)

n't have the image that gave this stack dump anymore. I simply commented out the part of the code that panicked and just used kfree anyway. From what you said below this is not totally safe, but it did work and I was finally able to boot with oskit-mach. I haven't tried using the floppy driv

I've got it! (Re: oskit-mach)

e); --- snip --- Well it did happen, the linux floppy driver from oskit wanted to free some memory for dma. So Roland (or whoever wrote that code), why is this a special case and what was your plan exactly? Igor ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

Oskit-mach followup

uestion I have is, who actually likes mig and it's interface definitions? Or more people think that it should be changed/replaced? I remember there was some talk about switching to CORBA semantics for RPCs, is that idea still alive? Igor ___ Bug-hurd mai

Problems with oskit-mach

iboot module supposed to look like? In other words what do I have to do if I want to plug something in instead of serverboot? Any suggestions and comments are very welcome. Even just to tell me if I'm talking crazy talk. :-) Thanks. Igor

FPU emulation support for gnumach

a couple of more times to make sure everything works. But I will need help testing it. Thanks. Igor

More questions on gnumach internals

nd what *does* happen if there is a page fault from kernel space while accessing user space memory? `kernel_trap()' in i386/i386/trap.c seems rather pessimistic and panics a lot. If the user supplied an invalid address would it not be appropriate to raise an access violation exception? Thanks in advance. Igor

Re: hurd-2000072 crosscompilation

On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:13:16PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:17:22PM -0400, Igor Khavkine wrote: > > Otherwise > > you are free to flame the people who wrote the makefiles. :-) > > I would think twice. I have not these problems, and I j

Re: hurd-2000072 crosscompilation

home/agx/src/hurd-2726/serverboot' > gmake: *** [serverboot] Error 2 > The symbols that are missing can be found in the files serverboot/exec.c, exec/hostarch.c, exec/hashexec.c, libports/create-port.c, libports/port-deref.c, libports/lookup-port.c. The makefile might have not picked them up because they might not have compiled properly and didn't have a .o extension. Make sure those object files are there and try again. Otherwise you are free to flame the people who wrote the makefiles. :-) Igor