Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 19:28:48 schrieb Shakthi Kannan: > The 'index' is explicit in 'git', and it helps you to move between > working directory and the local repository. I know that it has its technical advantages, but from the UI side it is hard - too many things to remember when you'r

Re: Someone interested in writing a regression test suite for Hurd components?

2009-09-23 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Schwinge wrote: | Before installing these patches, I'd like to have a basic regression test | suite set-up that gives us some confidence that they don't in turn cause | breakage on other parts / uses of rpctrace. \-- Could you furnish more details?

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: | I have to remember to use diff in 3 modes: | | so, which one do I really need? | | But that's essentially 3 different commands I need to keep in mind to see the | state of my changes. \-- The 'index' is explicit in 'git', an

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 14:26:30 schrieb Shakthi Kannan: > Common! You didn't go through my presentation? :) > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/di-git-ally-managing-lov > e-letters.pdf While that's a great idea for presenting version control, it clearly shows one of the

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 05:26:54PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 16:54:54 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > > I have a course of German at the University now, so I'll soon become a > > true Hurd man :-) (since, apparently, a lot of Hurd people speak > > Germ

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 16:54:54 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > It sort of automatically creates shorter aliases for you - saves > > keystrokes. > > Aha, so it does so automatically. I somehow thought you have to > define aliases by yourself. You can, but you don't have to. > > And when y

Re: Quotes about the Hurd

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 16:59:39 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > I'll try to think of something these days. I hope the quotes idea > will have its influence. I think the most important thing would be to get in contact with as many Hurd enthusiasts (regardless of the question if they are still a

Re: Quotes about the Hurd

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:26:35PM +0200, Arne Bab. wrote: > Sergiu wrote: > > Hm, I wonder whether we could collect (or concoct) similar phrases > > about the Hurd. It should be nice if we could... > > I put up my own quote in our wiki: > > "With the Hurd, users can change anything in

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:14:40PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 15:21:28 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > I usually prefer to have a long output than some witty short text > > which contains some jokes, some vague indications, and no real > > instructions.

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:01:36PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 14:45:41 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > Well, yes, but wasn't CVS, for instance, created for distributed code > > collaboration, too? Or do I understand the word ``distributed'' > > wrong?

Re: Quotes about the Hurd

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Bab.
Sergiu wrote: > Hm, I wonder whether we could collect (or concoct) similar phrases > about the Hurd. It should be nice if we could... I put up my own quote in our wiki: "With the Hurd, users can change anything in their system which doesn't affect other users." - http://www.gnu.org/software/h

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 15:21:28 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > I usually prefer to have a long output than some witty short text > which contains some jokes, some vague indications, and no real > instructions. (I don't remember examples, but I've surely run into > something like this in the pas

Quotes about the Hurd

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, We'd like to add a section with quotes about the hurd to our website, and we're sure you've got some nice quotes up your sleeves. Please send us your own or your favorite quote about the Hurd! If the quote is a one line success story (or can link to a success story), all the

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 14:45:41 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > Well, yes, but wasn't CVS, for instance, created for distributed code > collaboration, too? Or do I understand the word ``distributed'' > wrong? The difference is that in CVS you have a reference server, so it's normally called "c

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: | But to know enough about Mercurial for 95% of the use cases you need far less | time than for git. \-- Common! You didn't go through my presentation? :) http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/di-git-ally-managing

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 14:16:47 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > > You have different instances of the history, but all data _which isn't > > > changed_ is a simple hardlink. > > > > Aha, I see. Sorry for talking

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 14:16:47 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > You have different instances of the history, but all data _which isn't > > changed_ is a simple hardlink. > > Aha, I see. Sorry for talking rubbish :-( No problem. Btw: There is an extension which makes two working directories

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 02:09:32PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 13:23:43 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > Hm, I thought there would be more differences than that. Although > > from your discussion with Arne last summer I could only suppose that > > git an

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 01:58:52AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:46:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:59:49AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net > > wrote: > > > > It's much more interesting to have a partially customized > > >

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 13:33:08 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > Also you can very easily customize it with extensions... damn, we had > > that discussion already. It took several weeks of pages-long E-Mails :-) > > Oh, I really didn't mean to make both you and antrik repeat what you > have onc

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 13:23:43 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > Hm, I thought there would be more differences than that. Although > from your discussion with Arne last summer I could only suppose that > git and Mercurial are very similar in many approaches. They were written for the same usecas

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 01:55:41PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 13:19:05 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > > better in Mercurial, because if there is only one instance of history > > for all feature clones, you can always screw things up globally. (I > > ho

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 13:19:05 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > As far as I know, people who use git rather go for seperate in-repo > > branches (which already wrecked my own repo twice, because I did > > *something* wrong). > > Yep, this statement is right at least in my case :-) > > better

Re: [PATCH] Apply pattern-matching immediately beneath the stow directory.

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 03:25:39AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > > I still don't understand why you think that the current hardcoded > "descend into all directories, then match all subdirectories against > foo" is more efficient than "descend into all directories matching * > (i.e

Re: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:40:05AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:04:58PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:15:44AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 06:07:01PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > >

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:16:04AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 00:44:55 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:08:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > Seeing how advertently you propagate Mercurial in every applicable > >

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:44:55AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:08:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > Seeing how advertently you propagate Mercurial in every applicable > > task, I think I'll have to have a look at it :-) It should be worth > > the

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:19:09AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 00:37:57 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > > I really think this is the most important feature of git. No matter > > how much you screw up, you can always go back > > Though in pract

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:37:57AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:18:29PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:46:06AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > > > "hg rollback" can also be used to undo pulling from someone, since >

Re: subhurds etc.

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 01:58:52 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > The snapshotting filesystems we are seeing now OTOH avoid all this, by > not trying to track individual changes, but rather only creating > snaphots of the current state on explicit request. (With manual > triggering, or ti

Re: VCS (was: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn)

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 00:44:55 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:08:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > Seeing how advertently you propagate Mercurial in every applicable > > task, I think I'll have to have a look at it :-) It should be worth > > the time ;-)

Re: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 00:10:43 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > (My problem is that while I learned not to implement unnecessarily > complicated solutions, I haven't learned not to think too much in > advance :-( ) Same for me - I have uncounted concepts for improved p2p networks in m

Re: Mercurial vs. git

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 00:37:57 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > The great thing about git is that everything can be reverted (with the > obvious exception of git-gc...) -- including a revert. Which is the only normal operation you can't revert in hg. normal means here: you don't use

Re: nsmux: Integration with the Hurd Git Repository

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 01:40:29 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > And the last question is about the integration itself: how exactly do > > I take my nsmux git repository and integrate it into the Hurd git > > repository? > > I've never done this myself, so I actually don't know