On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 11:46:08 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide:
> > @all: Why are YOU working on the Hurd?
> >
> > What is the niche the Hurd fills for you?
>
For me the Hurd is the operating system where any
Sergiu Ivanov wrote:
> Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
> that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
> probably sounds crazy, but I know that only a microkernel OS can do
> something like that, so the Hurd may be appropriate :-)
>
> So
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 17:35:16 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > Another example of features which would be easily possible with the
> > > Hurd:
> > >
> > > * media-player translator:
> > > - settrans play /hurd/me
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 17:43:48 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> Arne Babenhauserheide, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 17:35:16 +0100, a écrit :
> > Transparent ftp out of the box would be a cool feature, too.
>
> Err, well we can already setup that automatically, it's just a matter of
>
> touch /ftp:
> settran
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 17:35:16 +0100, a écrit :
> Transparent ftp out of the box would be a cool feature, too.
Err, well we can already setup that automatically, it's just a matter of
touch /ftp:
settrans /ftp: /hurd/hostmux /hurd/ftpfs /
Samuel
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > - operating system study purposes as its done with minix
>
> I wonder what would be necessary to make the Hurd more interesting in
> this aspect. Probably mostly boils down to various kinds of
> documentation as well...
I think a
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > Another example of features which would be easily possible with the
> > Hurd:
> >
> > * media-player translator:
> > - settrans play /hurd/mediaplayer_play
> > - cp song1.ogg song2.ogg play - # -> files ge
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> And when the development is done, the really hard part will begin:
> Pushing it to the "masses".
Careful with that thought!
To get and _keep_ the masses we only need to push it to a niche, and grab
that. The masses don't readily
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I guess it's not too hard to come up with a mechanism to allow for that;
> but it must be readily available, so users can activate it easily. Even
> better if it was active by default...
>
> I fear though that such radical things hav
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> However, I dwelt on an interesting variation above: For *virtual*
> appliances the Hurd might be interesting -- using hurdish
> subenvironments instead of full virtualisation, they could be more
> efficient and convenient.
What does
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I mentioned the desktop thing as one possible showcase. The problem here
> is that it is a task for many years... Would be nice to have some
> hurdish applications for showing around, in a closer timeframe.
And I think we're close t
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > If most systems just differ by the translators setup on them, people
> > could even transfer their whole environment from one computer to
> > another one without needing root access or more root interaction than
> > creating a new
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:03:37AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> As the Brainstorm Phase is finished, it's time for a Reality Check:
> Give back power to users:
While this was indeed the main idea behind the Hurd design, it is rather
vague for the most part. We have the archit
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:35:24AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> - http://draketo.de/filme/codeswarm/hurd-gsoc2008.ogv
> (Please tell me what you think about it!)
Well, quite impressive -- nice work! :-)
-antrik-
Russell Shaw, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 19:15:46 +1100, a écrit :
> Would a graphics driver (that needs access to system IO) in Hurd be
> running in a user context where i can use gdb on it?
The Hurd console can be debuggued that way, yes!
Samuel
Hi,
I've been reading about GNU/Hurd. In linux, a driver for a graphics card done
in the kernel needs to be tediously debugged using printk() and related because
it's not running in user context.
Would a graphics driver (that needs access to system IO) in Hurd be running in
a user context where i
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 11:46:08 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide:
> @all: Why are YOU working on the Hurd?
>
> What is the niche the Hurd fills for you?
I figured I should start myself :)
This is the niche it fills for me:
"With the Hurd, users can change anything in their system which does
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 11:26:36 schrieb Benoit FREMON:
> I don't see why the Hurd (or subhurds) couldn't be used as a platform for
> cloud computing. But as this buzzword spread like fire on the internet, and
> cloud computing is more and more used (even MS is aware of the trend, and
> acting:
* Arne Babenhauserheide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 10:51:15 schrieb Benoit FREMON:
> > How is this different from what marketing people call "Cloud Computing" ?
> > Perhaps using the Hurd this way gives you more control, but I don't see
> > much difference here...
>
>
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 10:51:15 schrieb Benoit FREMON:
> How is this different from what marketing people call "Cloud Computing" ?
> Perhaps using the Hurd this way gives you more control, but I don't see
> much difference here...
Asking the question the other way round: Is could computing a
* Arne Babenhauserheide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:35:48 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> > Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
> > that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
> > probably sounds crazy, but I know t
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 09:51:39 +0100, a écrit :
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:35:48 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> > Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
>
> It sounds just crazy enough to become a reality someday :)
Well, I think it is just _poss
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:23:04 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> I've just uploaded the .mp4 version. It's here:
> http://www.vimeo.com/2097773
Many thanks!
I hope they'll include it in the code_swarm feed soon!
Best wishes,
Arne
-- My stuff: http://draketo.de - stories, songs, poems, programs
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:35:48 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
> that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
> probably sounds crazy, but I know that only a microkernel OS can do
> something like that, so
Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
probably sounds crazy, but I know that only a microkernel OS can do
something like that, so the Hurd may be appropriate :-)
Sorry for being late with the idea
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