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Re: the big term patch

2002-02-08 Thread Roland McGrath
This stuff all looks great. As usual, Marcus, you rule. It would be ideal to separate the commits into: bottomhalf interface changes, using argp, and adding the hurdio bottomhalf. But if you don't want to bother then I don't really care. But please do clean up the log entries not to make refer

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Adam Olsen
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:24:22PM +0100, Niels M?ller wrote: > Or use morse code to the PC speaker ;-) Ugh, don't even mention that. We could take the linux driver to put normal sound on a PC Speaker, and use the Festival program to produce speech. We could have it verbally announce the crash

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Roland McGrath
> when we use a true user space console which accesses the gva graphic card at > the hardware level (I/O ports, mapped memory), we will face some interesting > races with the kernel. I don't think the kernel ever ought to compete. In Linux, even if you run X on tty1 (vt1) I don't think the conso

Re: the big term patch

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 07:03:02PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > here is a fix on top of the other patch and here a patch on top of the patch on top of the patch. The whole patch is now available at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/contrib/marcus/term.diff This patch adds argp parsing to term, a

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Niels Möller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have a kernel log device to retrieve them. It's just that if everything > is going down, you probably want to see the last words of the kernel at the > console, because that's your only chance. Well, if the kernel doesn't know gfx hardware (whic

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:24:22PM +0100, Niels Möller wrote: > For serious debugging of kernel panics, you'd want to use a gdb on the > serial line, or a real crash dump for post-mortem debugging (I'm not > very familiar with crash dump feature, but I think it means writing > the system state ont

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 08:45:41PM +0100, Niels Möller wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am not sure we can do anything reasonable about it. Disabling the kernel > > messages would be the cure for corruption, but it might make you miss out on > > important messages fr

Re: console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Niels Möller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am not sure we can do anything reasonable about it. Disabling the kernel > messages would be the cure for corruption, but it might make you miss out on > important messages from the kernel. I guess the natural solution is to have the kernel send

console server and kernel prints

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, when we use a true user space console which accesses the gva graphic card at the hardware level (I/O ports, mapped memory), we will face some interesting races with the kernel. I am not so worried about the normal operation (setting cursor etc) although it would be neat to avoid races there,

Re: the big term patch

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, talking to myself again ;) here is a fix on top of the other patch. It is removing the constructor functions and replaces them by init functions that are part of the bottom handler interface. This also cleans up a special casing for ptyio_init. This way, root permission should not be neces

Re: the big term patch

2002-02-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 07:03:02PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > here is a fix pfft. diff -ur term.new.old/ChangeLog term.new/ChangeLog --- term.new.old/ChangeLog Thu Feb 7 00:29:05 2002 +++ term.new/ChangeLog Fri Feb 8 19:02:21 2002 @@ -1,4 +1,26 @@ -2002-02-07 Marcus Brinkmann <[E

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