Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Karl Berry
Yes, from the FSF side of things, having the FSF own the copyright is handy for upgrading licenses; Probably everyone here knows, but for the archives: FSF holding copyright is about more than being handy for license changes. It's about defending the program's copyright in court. This i

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Eric Blake
On 05/04/2010 09:53 AM, Peter Seebach wrote: > In message , "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: >> If the FSF is the copyright holder, then there is no (legal) need to >> ask the original author about permission to relicense the work. It >> might be a nice thing to do, but if the original author says no fo

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 05/04/2010 05:53 PM, Peter Seebach wrote: In message, "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: If the FSF is the copyright holder, then there is no (legal) need to ask the original author about permission to relicense the work. It might be a nice thing to do, but if the original author says no for some re

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Jim Meyering
Peter Seebach wrote: > In message , "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: >>If the FSF is the copyright holder, then there is no (legal) need to >>ask the original author about permission to relicense the work. It >>might be a nice thing to do, but if the original author says no for >>some reason, the FSF ca

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Peter, * Peter Seebach wrote on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:53:56PM CEST: > In message , "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: > >If the FSF is the copyright holder, then there is no (legal) need to > >ask the original author about permission to relicense the work. It > >might be a nice thing to do, but i

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Peter Seebach
In message <201005042150.o44lolls015...@f7.net>, Karl Berry writes: >Aside from that: the FSF will also accept a copyright disclaimer, >putting changes in the public domain. So if that's your preference (as >I think I saw in another message), it is fine. Ahh, that would work nicely. My proposal

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-05 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Peter, if the FSF needs a copyright assignment, does that not imply that I no longer get to choose the copyright? As the author, your desire/recommendation would carry a lot of weight :). If you want it released under LGPLv2+, I can't imagine there being a problem with that. Aside fro

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Seebach
In message <4be03f2d.7090...@redhat.com>, Eric Blake writes: >As original author, you get to choose the license that will be used >within gnulib. I see nothing wrong with you declaring that the >setproctitle module is LGPLv2+. Ahh, okay. That said, the more I look at this, the less sure I am tha

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Seebach
In message , "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: >If the FSF is the copyright holder, then there is no (legal) need to >ask the original author about permission to relicense the work. It >might be a nice thing to do, but if the original author says no for >some reason, the FSF can still relicense the work;

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
>> Can you simply declare the copyright to be LGPLv2+? Many >> modules are already LGPLv2+ (see modules/*). > > I could if I were just releasing the code myself, but if the FSF > needs a copyright assignment, does that not imply that I no > longer get to choose the copyright?

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Eric Blake
On 05/04/2010 09:21 AM, Peter Seebach wrote: > In message <87r5lr51hh@meyering.net>, Jim Meyering writes: >> Can you simply declare the copyright to be LGPLv2+? >> Many modules are already LGPLv2+ (see modules/*). > > I could if I were just releasing the code myself, but if the FSF needs > a c

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Seebach
In message <87r5lr51hh@meyering.net>, Jim Meyering writes: >Can you simply declare the copyright to be LGPLv2+? >Many modules are already LGPLv2+ (see modules/*). I could if I were just releasing the code myself, but if the FSF needs a copyright assignment, does that not imply that I no longer

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Jim Meyering
Peter Seebach wrote: > In message <87hbmo5fzq@meyering.net>, Jim Meyering writes: >>Thanks for volunteering. Yes, this would be useful. >>There are many implementations floating around. > > There are indeed a ton. > >>Can you assign copyright to the FSF? > > I think I can. There is some ambi

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Bruno Haible
Peter Seebach wrote: > Is there any interest in attempting to provide a moderately portable > setproctitle()? Yes, because it looks like a portable implementation will have to use different approaches on different platforms. [1] has the following: - use the function setproctitle. - use pstat(P

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Seebach
In message <87hbmo5fzq@meyering.net>, Jim Meyering writes: >Thanks for volunteering. Yes, this would be useful. >There are many implementations floating around. There are indeed a ton. >Can you assign copyright to the FSF? I think I can. There is some ambiguity about the IP agreement at $d

Re: setproctitle()

2010-05-03 Thread Jim Meyering
Peter Seebach wrote: > Is there any interest in attempting to provide a moderately portable > setproctitle()? (I think it would be reasonable for it to, on some > systems, simply fail to do anything...) > > Apparently, this functionality exists in "util-linux-ng", and sendmail has > an implementat