Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Bruno, On 21 Oct 2011, at 06:58, Bruno Haible wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> On the other hand, if by "incremental" you really mean chunking my rewrite >> into >> patches that add a function here and there, and disable bits of the old >> script >> when they are no longer called, then I co

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Blake
On 10/20/2011 05:58 PM, Bruno Haible wrote: Gary V. Vaughan wrote: On the other hand, if by "incremental" you really mean chunking my rewrite into patches that add a function here and there, and disable bits of the old script when they are no longer called, then I could be persuaded to do that.

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Bruno Haible
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > On the other hand, if by "incremental" you really mean chunking my rewrite > into > patches that add a function here and there, and disable bits of the old script > when they are no longer called, then I could be persuaded to do that. That would be a way to proceed. But i

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: ... > On the other hand, if by "incremental" you really mean chunking my rewrite > into > patches that add a function here and there, and disable bits of the old script > when they are no longer called, then I could be persuaded to do that. How > big should the chunks be to

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
Hi Jim, On 20 Oct 2011, at 23:44, Jim Meyering wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:13, Jim Meyering wrote: >>> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Jim, please consider pulling it into coreutils master as a better fix than > twidding Makefiles after the fact in bootstrap.conf. >>>

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:13, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Jim, please consider pulling it into coreutils master as a better fix than twidding Makefiles after the fact in bootstrap.conf. > This -Iintl option will disappear with gettext versio

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Ping? On 16 Oct 2011, at 12:50, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 04:15, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> Is there anything else I can do to help you incorporate this, and the >>> matching bootstrap.conf I wrote for you into coreutils now that the >>> releas

[PATCH] Fix coreutils -Iintl vs gnulib gettext [WAS Re: a saner bootstrap script]

2011-10-20 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
Ping? On 16 Oct 2011, at 18:28, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > On 16 Oct 2011, at 15:58, Bruno Haible wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> If there is a bug in gnulib-tool, or autopoint that puts unnecessary >>> 'intl/' references into Makefiles when the presence of >>> AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION in configu

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-20 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Jim, On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:13, Jim Meyering wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> Jim, please consider pulling it into coreutils master as a better fix than >>> twidding Makefiles after the fact in bootstrap.conf. >>> This -Iintl option will disappear with gettext version 0.19 - because >>>

Re: [PATCH] Fix coreutils -Iintl vs gnulib gettext [WAS Re: a saner bootstrap script]

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> Jim, please consider pulling it into coreutils master as a better fix than >> twidding Makefiles after the fact in bootstrap.conf. >> >>> This -Iintl option will disappear with gettext version 0.19 - because >>> then "gettextize --intl" will not work any more; it's already

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-19 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Ping? On 16 Oct 2011, at 12:50, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 04:15, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> Is there anything else I can do to help you incorporate this, and the >>> matching bootstrap.conf I wrote for you into coreutils now that the >>> releas

[PATCH] Fix coreutils -Iintl vs gnulib gettext [WAS Re: a saner bootstrap script]

2011-10-19 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Ping? On 16 Oct 2011, at 18:28, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > On 16 Oct 2011, at 15:58, Bruno Haible wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> If there is a bug in gnulib-tool, or autopoint that puts unnecessary >>> 'intl/' references into Makefiles when the presence of >>> AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION in configu

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-16 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Bruno, On 16 Oct 2011, at 15:58, Bruno Haible wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> If there is a bug in gnulib-tool, or autopoint that puts unnecessary >> 'intl/' references into Makefiles when the presence of >> AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION in configure.ac is a declaration that says there >> is no nee

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-16 Thread Bruno Haible
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > If there is a bug in gnulib-tool, or autopoint that puts unnecessary > 'intl/' references into Makefiles when the presence of > AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION in configure.ac is a declaration that says there > is no need for local 'intl/', then I think the bug should be fixed there

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-15 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
[[Bruno, I've kept you in for the gnulib-tool or autopoint bug I'm intimating near the bottom of this message.]] Hi Jim, On 16 Oct 2011, at 04:15, Jim Meyering wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> Is there anything else I can do to help you incorporate this, and the >> matching bootstrap.conf I w

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-15 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Hi Pádraig, Jim, > > Is there anything else I can do to help you incorporate this, and the > matching bootstrap.conf I wrote for you into coreutils now that the > release is out? Hi Gary, Thanks for persevering. I have just tried it. It looks like your coreutils working

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-15 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Bruno, Thanks for the advice, see below for the result. Hi Pádraig, Jim, Is there anything else I can do to help you incorporate this, and the matching bootstrap.conf I wrote for you into coreutils now that the release is out? All, Sorry for the late reply, thanks to unreasonably late raini

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-06 Thread Bruno Haible
Pádraig Brady wrote: > > They're in different packages on my system: > > > > $ rpm -qf $(which autopoint) > > gettext-devel-0.18.1.1-7.fc15.x86_64 > > $ rpm -qf $(which gettext) > > gettext-0.18.1.1-7.fc15.x86_64 For 'bootstrap's purposes, the latter is irrelevant; only the presence and version o

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-06 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
[[Cc: Bruno in the hope of advice on the right approach]] Hi Pádraig, On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:13, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 10/06/2011 09:28 AM, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> autopoint and gettext are synonymous, right? If not, only the gettext-0.18.1 >> check is made automatically, and I need to figu

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-06 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Jim, On 6 Oct 2011, at 07:18, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Please find attached my updated bootstrap.conf to work with the coreutils > master. > I tested it alongside an upgraded bootstrap script from zile master: > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/zile.git/plain/bootstrap Note that I've fixe

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-06 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 10/06/2011 09:28 AM, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Hi Pádraig, > > On 6 Oct 2011, at 14:58, Pádraig Brady wrote: >> Thanks for the improvements. > > You're most welcome! > >> We're about to do a coreutils release, so I'm thinking >> these changes might go in after that >> so we can test thoroughly

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-06 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
Hi Pádraig, On 6 Oct 2011, at 14:58, Pádraig Brady wrote: > Thanks for the improvements. You're most welcome! > We're about to do a coreutils release, so I'm thinking > these changes might go in after that > so we can test thoroughly. Yes, that would be safest, I think. The coreutils bootstrap

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-06 Thread Pádraig Brady
Thanks for the improvements. We're about to do a coreutils release, so I'm thinking these changes might go in after that so we can test thoroughly. A few comments on the new bootstrap.conf You seem to have synced against an old version of buildreq which didn't have autotools or gettext listed. Bu

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-05 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
Hi Jim, On 5 Oct 2011, at 14:08, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > On 5 Oct 2011, at 00:16, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> I haven't had time yet to pick up the coreutils bootstrap.conf update, but >>> I'll probably be able to get to it by the end of the week. If you're in a >>> hurry,

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-05 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Jim, On 5 Oct 2011, at 00:16, Jim Meyering wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:09, Jim Meyering wrote: >>> Do you feel like rebasing it? >> >> Sure, although it will take me a few days to find the time - is that because >> you're planning to adopt my bootstrap script into c

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-04 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:09, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> Sorry I didn't notice your reply sooner. >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:38, Jim Meyering wrote: Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> * g...@github.com:gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils.git in gary/bo

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-04 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Jim, On 4 Oct 2011, at 17:09, Jim Meyering wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> Sorry I didn't notice your reply sooner. >> >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:38, Jim Meyering wrote: >>> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> * g...@github.com:gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils.git in gary/bootstrap >> https://github.com

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-04 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Sorry I didn't notice your reply sooner. > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:38, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > * g...@github.com:gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils.git in gary/bootstrap > https://github.com/gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils/commits/gary/bootstrap >> >> I'll try

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-10-02 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Jim, Sorry I didn't notice your reply sooner. On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:38, Jim Meyering wrote: > Gary V. Vaughan wrote: * g...@github.com:gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils.git in gary/bootstrap https://github.com/gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils/commits/gary/bootstrap > > I'll try to find time for this n

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Monday 26 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > Hi Stefano! > Hi Gary, thanks for your quick and detailed answers. > [[Items I agree with elided]] > Ditto. > On 26 Sep 2011, at 17:27, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > > Do you have a diff file to show what you've changed exactly? I'd find that > > really

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Monday 26 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > >> > > Maybe some code like this should be enough to catch most potential > > erroneous definitions? > > > > case $po_download_command_format in > >*[^%]%s*[^%]%s*) ;; > >*) fatal "invalid format in \$po_download_command_format";; > > esac >

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Stefano, On 26 Sep 2011, at 18:06, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2011, Gary V wrote: @cnindex gnulib_precious @item gnulib_precious Normally, @command{bootstrap} removes any macro-files that are not included by @file{aclocal.m4} before it returns, except

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Stefano! [[Items I agree with elided]] On 26 Sep 2011, at 17:27, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2011, Gary V wrote: >> On 25 Sep 2011, at 22:55, Stefano Lattarini wrote: >>> On Thursday 22 September 2011, Gary V wrote: Anyone: It's beginning to look as though

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Monday 26 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > >> @cnindex gnulib_precious > >> @item gnulib_precious > >> Normally, @command{bootstrap} removes any macro-files that are not > >> included by @file{aclocal.m4} before it returns, except for files > >> listed in this variable which are always kept. > >

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Stefano, Thanks again for taking the time to review these files. As before, I've accepted the changes into my copy wherever I haven't commented otherwise below. Since there is no other natural home for the texi file, since I wrote it specifically for gnulib, so I'm attaching the latest versio

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Monday 26 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > Hi Stefano, > > On 25 Sep 2011, at 22:55, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > > On Thursday 22 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > >> Anyone: > >> > >> It's beginning to look as though all this work is, once again, in very > >> real danger of just slipping quietly

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-26 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Stefano, On 25 Sep 2011, at 22:55, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > On Thursday 22 September 2011, Gary V wrote: >> Anyone: >> >> It's beginning to look as though all this work is, once again, in very >> real danger of just slipping quietly through the cracks. >> > Hi Gary. While I don't pretend t

Re: a saner bootstrap script [Was Re: I fixed this once already]

2011-09-25 Thread Stefano Lattarini
And this is a quick review about the new documentation ... On Thursday 22 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > > @node Bootstrap > @chapter Bootstrap > > The process of executing the various tools required to bring all the > generated files up to date in a directory freshly checked out from > source c

Re: a saner bootstrap script [Was Re: I fixed this once already]

2011-09-25 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Thursday 22 September 2011, Gary V wrote: > Anyone: > > It's beginning to look as though all this work is, once again, in very > real danger of just slipping quietly through the cracks. > Hi Gary. While I don't pretend to really understand the scope and purposes of your script, I might anyway

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Eggert
On 09/22/11 09:01, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> Perhaps you can refresh my >> > memory about the diffutils issue? > No issue that I'm aware of. Ah, sorry, I must have confused diffutils with tar. OK, I'll try to get to diffutils soon, with this. Thanks for keeping us on our toes!

Re: a saner bootstrap script [Was Re: I fixed this once already]

2011-09-22 Thread Jim Meyering
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >>> * g...@github.com:gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils.git in gary/bootstrap >>> https://github.com/gvvaughan/GNU-coreutils/commits/gary/bootstrap I'll try to find time for this next week. I glanced through the first few lines of your script and found FGREP=fgrep EGREP=egrep .

Re: a saner bootstrap script

2011-09-22 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Paul, Thanks for the quick response. On 22 Sep 2011, at 22:40, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 09/22/11 05:42, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> I'm treating the bootstrap script in GNU Zile git as the master copy > > It's certainly on my list of things to do. > I was planning to do it with diffutils. > But

Re: a saner bootstrap script [Was Re: I fixed this once already]

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Eggert
On 09/22/11 05:42, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > I'm treating the bootstrap script in GNU Zile git as the master copy It's certainly on my list of things to do. I was planning to do it with diffutils. But if I recall, you said there was some minor issue with diffutils and that dissuaded me from just sw