bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-05 Thread Krystian Samp
This makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain this in detail. On Thu, 5 Sept 2024 at 11:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Krystian Samp > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:44:14 +0200 > > Cc: phil...@posteo.net, 72...@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Thanks, > > > > imho it'd be also useful to add t

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Krystian Samp > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:44:14 +0200 > Cc: phil...@posteo.net, 72...@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thanks, > > imho it'd be also useful to add there that Emacs will make the installed > packages available automatically at > startup. Now it reads that Emacs will add them to `load-p

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-05 Thread Krystian Samp
Thanks, imho it'd be also useful to add there that Emacs will make the installed packages available automatically at startup. Now it reads that Emacs will add them to `load-path` but I wouldn't infer from this that Emacs will also make these packages available. And right after that we say that "..

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Krystian Samp > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:52:15 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 72...@debbugs.gnu.org > > I'd propose to make a simple change in 28.8 that is consistent with 49.3: > > Original: > "Note that installing a package using package-install (see Package > Installation) takes care of

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: Krystian Samp , 72...@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:49:40 + > > I believe the documentation here is just outdated. From NEWS.27: > > ** Installed packages are now activated *before* loading the init file. > As a result of this change, it is

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-04 Thread Krystian Samp
Also note that the preceding paragraph in 28.8 talks about the need to 'load' or 'require' libraries that you want to make available at startup. So reading in the very next paragraph: "[...] and also writes the necessary initialization code into your init files" sets the expectation that package-in

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-02 Thread Philip Kaludercic
Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Krystian Samp >> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 12:41:11 +0200 >> >> I was reading the section on "Libraries of Lisp Code for Emacs" (section >> 28.8) in the Emacs manual, and I >> encountered a passage that seems a bit unclear. The text suggests that when >> using packa

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-02 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Krystian Samp > Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 12:41:11 +0200 > > I was reading the section on "Libraries of Lisp Code for Emacs" (section > 28.8) in the Emacs manual, and I > encountered a passage that seems a bit unclear. The text suggests that when > using package-install, Emacs > might autom

bug#72961: Possible documentation improvement: Clarification for package installation

2024-09-02 Thread Krystian Samp
Hello, I was reading the section on "Libraries of Lisp Code for Emacs" (section 28.8) in the Emacs manual, and I encountered a passage that seems a bit unclear. The text suggests that when using package-install, Emacs might automatically add initialization code to the init.el file, which doesn’t s