‘command … &’ creates subshell

2020-06-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Dear maintainer, I believe, that the current behaviour of GNU Bash: $ command cat & [1] 3831 $ ps --pid $! --ppid $! PID TTY TIME CMD 3831 pts/300:00:00 bash 3832 pts/300:00:00 cat is problematic. Namely it is: 1) unexpected,

Re: ‘command … &’ creates subshell

2020-06-30 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Chet Ramey wrote: > On 6/29/20 4:33 PM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> 1) unexpected, as (a) it does not seem to be documented, (b) itʼs >> counter-intuitive and (c) other bourne-like shells (busybox ash, dash, >> ksh93, mksh, zsh) does not do that; > > It's an opp

Re: ‘command … &’ creates subshell

2020-06-30 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Eli Schwartz wrote: > Useful replacements: Thank you. Yes, I have to pick up habit to post known user-level workarounds along with bugreports. > If you need to ensure a disk executable is used, Of course. Why ‘command’ otherwise? > $ "$(type -P cat)" & > [1] 2092352 > $ ps --pid $! --ppid $

Re: ‘command … &’ creates subshell

2020-07-01 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Robert Elz wrote: > | > If you need to ensure a disk executable is used, > | Of course. Why "command" otherwise? > > That doesn't actually work, "command" can run built-ins Ah, yes, thanks for correction. > there is actually no method ‹…› which guarantees execution of an executable > from

Re: ‘command … &’ creates subshell

2020-07-01 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Robert Elz wrote: > The whole point of trying to find a technique like was hoped for using > command, and others have used env for, and still others, (exec command) (none > of which are guaranteed to work) is so that the script will work with > different shells and in different environments. O

Re: "shell-expand-line" wrongly(?) expanded $'foo' to $foo

2020-07-01 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Clark Wang wrote: > # echo $'foo'# press ESC C-e > # echo $foo + the same with $"foo". signature.asc Description: PGP signature