On 1/26/21 2:46 AM, Chet Ramey wrote:
> On 1/25/21 12:58 PM, Oğuz wrote:
>> I rarely use eval, but when I do, it works just fine.
>
> Someone should create a meme with this text superimposed on an image of the
> Dos Equis most interesting man in the world.
Not sure whether attachments are allowe
On 25/01/2021 21:36, gregrwm wrote:
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Machine: x86_64
OS: linux-gnu
Compiler: gcc
Compilation CFLAGS: -g -O2 -fdebug-prefix-map=/build/bash-a6qmCk/bash-5.0=.
-fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall
-Wno-pare
sorry, typo:
and in the more recent versions it's a different inconsistency, . is
excluded from ? ?? but included in @(?|.?)
should be:
and in the more recent versions it's a different inconsistency, . is
excluded from ? .? but included in @(?|.?)
tho as i said that's a tad askew from...
On Mon
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uname out
On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:46:24PM -0500, Chet Ramey wrote:
On 1/25/21 12:58 PM, Oğuz wrote:
I rarely use eval, but when I do, it works just fine.
Someone should create a meme with this text superimposed on an image of the
Dos Equis most interesting m
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:46:24PM -0500, Chet Ramey wrote:
> On 1/25/21 12:58 PM, Oğuz wrote:
>
> > I rarely use eval, but when I do, it works just fine.
>
> Someone should create a meme with this text superimposed on an image of the
> Dos Equis most interesting man in the world.
https://imgfli
On 1/25/21 12:58 PM, Oğuz wrote:
I rarely use eval, but when I do, it works just fine.
Someone should create a meme with this text superimposed on an image of the
Dos Equis most interesting man in the world.
--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
``Ar
On 1/25/21 12:53 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:13:25PM -0500, Chet Ramey wrote:
This is good advice. If the double-quoting the @K transformation performs
is not what you need, use the @Q transformation to get something closer.
Those don't do the same thing, though.
Yes,
Le 25/01/2021 à 18:58, Oğuz écrivait :
I rarely use eval, but when I do, it works just fine. I can't really agree
with the sentiment of your article, sorry.
I use eval when I am sure there is no other safer way.
Mean, if I can achieve the same with declare foo="dynamically generated
content"
word, hopefully ppl migrate to such as 'use what a tool supports'
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 19:22 Oğuz wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:15 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > Again, there are many different authors of that page. Think of it as
> > a community FAQ, rather than mine. It was written by
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:15 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Again, there are many different authors of that page. Think of it as
> a community FAQ, rather than mine. It was written by a committee, as
> horrifying as that may sound.
>
Okay, I'm not saying I know better than the members of that ``com
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From: Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
Date: Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 19:14
Subject: Re: Feature Request: scanf-like parsing
To: Eli Schwartz
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 18:58 Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On 1/25/21 12:48 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > you havent been on #bash
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:58:23PM +0300, Oğuz wrote:
> This sentence alone reflects that article's perspective on the issue.
> > "eval" is a common misspelling of "evil".
>
> I rarely use eval, but when I do, it works just fine. I can't really agree
> with the sentiment of your article, sorry.
A
assoc copy without eval
root@localhost:~# unset orig copy
root@localhost:~# declare -A orig=( [a\ key]=a\ value [another\
key]=another\ value ) ; rep=$( declare -p orig )
root@localhost:~# rep=$( declare -p orig )
root@localhost:~# declare -A "copy=${rep#*=}"
root@localhost:~# declare -p copy
de
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:06 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> It's a tricky thing to deal with. Eli referenced my wiki, which has a
> page dedicated to it, with contributions from many different authors.
> The resulting quasi-consensus is complex and perhaps even a little
> bit self-contradictory as a
On 1/25/21 12:48 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
you havent been on #bash freenode irc where it is the reverse to this quote
'no one ..', where also 'bash is no coding language' and x other invalid
things are common, to all i disagree, but the masses of ignorant wrong
teachen ppl overwealth me an
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:13:25PM -0500, Chet Ramey wrote:
> This is good advice. If the double-quoting the @K transformation performs
> is not what you need, use the @Q transformation to get something closer.
Those don't do the same thing, though.
unicorn:~$ declare -A aa=([a key]="a value" [$'
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 17:50 Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On 1/25/21 11:28 AM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > cool, now that u're the main bash coder greycat and co wont fall like
> > cannibals over you for using eval
> > cheers for old code
>
> No one ever said eval is evil, if you're using it solely t
On 1/25/21 11:59 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
The problem with eval is that for every OK usage, there are a thousand
incorrect and dangerous uses. Avoid those, by being absolutely sure
you know what you're doing, and why you're doing it.
The shell is a sharp tool.
--
``The lyf so short, the craf
On 1/25/21 11:59 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
The problem with eval is that for every OK usage, there are a thousand
incorrect and dangerous uses. Avoid those, by being absolutely sure
you know what you're doing, and why you're doing it.
This is good advice. If the double-quoting the @K transform
On 1/25/21 11:59 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 06:47:36PM +0200, Oğuz wrote:
25 Ocak 2021 Pazartesi tarihinde Chet Ramey yazdı:
declare -A copy
eval copy=( "${assoc[@]@K}" )
So many reputable people contributed to the demonization of `eval' that I
don't think I can convinc
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 06:47:36PM +0200, Oğuz wrote:
> 25 Ocak 2021 Pazartesi tarihinde Chet Ramey yazdı:
> > declare -A copy
> > eval copy=( "${assoc[@]@K}" )
>
> So many reputable people contributed to the demonization of `eval' that I
> don't think I can convince anyone that there's nothing w
On 1/25/21 11:28 AM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
cool, now that u're the main bash coder greycat and co wont fall like
cannibals over you for using eval
cheers for old code
No one ever said eval is evil, if you're using it solely to consume the
output of a shell builtin functionality specifica
25 Ocak 2021 Pazartesi tarihinde Chet Ramey yazdı:
>
> There has been code to do this for a long time. It's currently tagged for
> bash-5.2. If you want to play around with it, look in subst.c for
> shouldexp_replacement and its caller, and uncomment them. You'll have to
> wait for the next devel
i completly agree, .. just dunno why others dont :)
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 17:31 Chet Ramey wrote:
> On 1/25/21 11:28 AM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
> > cool, now that u're the main bash coder greycat and co wont fall like
> > cannibals over you for using eval
> > cheers for old code
>
> The she
On 1/25/21 11:28 AM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
cool, now that u're the main bash coder greycat and co wont fall like
cannibals over you for using eval
cheers for old code
The shell is a sharp tool. If you're going to use it to try and cut your
fingers off, it's not going to stop you. If you
cool, now that u're the main bash coder greycat and co wont fall like
cannibals over you for using eval
cheers for old code
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 17:18 Chet Ramey wrote:
> On 1/25/21 10:17 AM, Chet Ramey wrote:
> > I agree that it might be more useful if it
> > expanded to multiple words in cont
On 1/25/21 10:17 AM, Chet Ramey wrote:
I agree that it might be more useful if it
expanded to multiple words in contexts like
copy=( "${assoc[@]@K}" )
I forgot to mention that since the keys and values are both quoted so they
can be reused, you can copy an associative array using a key-value
a
On 1/22/21 11:54 AM, Oğuz wrote:
Since everyone's making feature requests here, it'd be a shame if I didn't
participate. I think it'd be better if `${assoc[@]@K}' expanded to a word
list instead of a single word.
It does, when it's subject to word splitting. In contexts where no word
splittin
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