On 06/03/2011 11:36 AM, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
> It sounds to me like what you're saying is, the *only* uses of bracket
> range expressions guaranteed to be "portable" are things like [[:upper:]]
> and [[:lower:]]. But I put "portable" in quotation marks just then,
> because to my mind the
On Fri, June 3, 2011 10:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:12:07AM -0700, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> In HP-UX's en_US.iso88591 locale, the characters are in a COMPLETELY
> different order. You can't easily figure out what that order is, because
> it's not docu
Bash has a bug: ${+} is syntactically invalid, as evidenced by the error
message when running the script, yet using 'set -n' was not able to flag
it as an error.
$ echo $BASH_VERSION
4.2.8(1)-release
$ bash -c 'echo ${+}'; echo $?
bash: ${+}: bad substitution
1
$ bash -cn '${+}'; echo $?
0
$ ksh -
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 15:27, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
> Sorry, I was imprecise in my wording in my email yesterday. By "use
> separate branches for individual developers", I meant that "branches
> would be created for those developers who wanted to develop publicly in
> a Git repository".
Such de
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:12:07AM -0700, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
> And yours looks broken -- how does
> echo Hello World | tr A-Z a-z
> result in a bunch of non-ASCII characters?
I explain it in a bit on http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale
In a bit more depth: in ASCII, the characters A-Z
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:15:55AM -0700, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
> Alright -- assuming that for the moment, how does one specify
> [ABCDEFGHIJKL] using [[:upper:]]? This is something that I haven't seen
> documented, and I'm genuinely curious.
You can't. Either write out [ABCDEFGHIJKL]
On 06/03/2011 10:15 AM, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
> Alright -- assuming that for the moment, how does one specify
> [ABCDEFGHIJKL] using [[:upper:]]? This is something that I haven't seen
> documented, and I'm genuinely curious.
[ABCDEFGHIJKL]
If you ever want a subset of [[:upper:]], the _
On 2011-06-03 05:00, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:06:32AM -0700, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
Is it really a programmer mistake, though, to assume that [A-Z] is only
capital letters?
Yes, it is. You should be using [[:upper:]], or you should be setting
LC_COLLATE=C if yo
On 2011-06-03 05:09, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Oh, look, there's more!
[...]
See? Both tr(1) and ls(1) do it too!
Right; forgot about ls (because "alias ls='LC_COLLATE=C ls'" has been in
my .bashrc for so long that I completely forgot it was there :) ), and
didn't think to try tr -- but tr appe
Chet Ramey wrote at 15:59 (EDT) on Thursday:
> I think there should be a master branch, and a branch that includes
> posted patches other than those that have been "officially released."
> Then other branches as needed to accommodate developers.
I think that could work fine; I'm happy to do my be
Oh, look, there's more!
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:06:32AM -0700, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
> [[:alpha:]] is too difficult to type to make it useful for the kind of
> quick pattern-matching that character ranges are used for on the
> interactive shell. Try it. Open-bracket, colon is an awk
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:06:32AM -0700, Marcel (Felix) Giannelia wrote:
> Is it really a programmer mistake, though, to assume that [A-Z] is only
> capital letters?
Yes, it is. You should be using [[:upper:]], or you should be setting
LC_COLLATE=C if you insist on using [A-Z].
This is a thorny issue that plagues all POSIX-compliant utilities,
not just Bash. (POSIX locales are just a blight.)
For gawk 4.0, I have said "to heck with it" and changed gawk so that
ranges act like they are in the C locale (unless --posix is used).
I and some other people are campaigning to
Is it really a programmer mistake, though, to assume that [A-Z] is only
capital letters? A through Z are a contiguous range in every
representation system except EBCDIC, and it is even contiguous the
modern unicode.
In the world of programming characters are numbers, and programmers know
this
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