The bind-users mailing list’s purpose is to discuss BIND 9. As this thread is
now widely off-topic, and I don’t want to hear more insults about me or my
team, especially from people who has been already moderated for misbehaving
(no, I am not letting that email through), I am putting the mailing
>> That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software.
>
> https://biplane.com.au/blog/?p=375
Well said!
The original poster did not supply any information which might be
of assistance in characterizing what he observed. He only said
"1300 zones", and showed a "top" display. Not
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024, Edwardo Garcia wrote:
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:57:47 +1000
> From: Edwardo Garcia
> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Subject: 9.18 horrendous
to claim that 9.18 is horrendous is not a good verdict for
this sofware and ISC in general. I personnally recommend to
use and insta
Am Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:28:22 -0400
schrieb David Farje :
> The whole point of open source software is that you as a user get
> software for free
You get certain freedoms because of the license. This doesn't mean it
needs to be provided for free. ISC also sells BIND9 together with a
support contra
On Fri, 2024-08-23 at 14:42 -0400, David Farje wrote:
> That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software.
https://biplane.com.au/blog/?p=375
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Karl Auer (ka...@biplane.com.au, he/him)
http://www.biplane.co
Why not? It clearly shows that arguing this 'free' argument is a bit narrow.
Because the scenarios are completely different. By using open source
software you enter a legal contract.
No that is not the point of open source software. The point of open source
software is that the code is available
Hoi All,
Everybody is free to act as he or she sees fit. However, do not expect
to be treated beter then you treat others.
The fact that this is free software is within the context of this
discussion irrelevant.
If you want to be treated as a human being, treat others as such. Be
always polite! If
> I get the point you're trying to make. I just don't think a volunteer
> crosswalk and a car accident is an appropriate analogy for open source
> software.
Why not? It clearly shows that arguing this 'free' argument is a bit narrow.
> The whole point of open source software is that you as a user
>
> That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software.
>
>
So if some store owner gives your kid candy that previously fell on the floor,
you are not complaining because it was for free ?
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I don't think you got the point. Can it be you are working on 9.18? ;P
Luckily legislation is different and your kid is being protected from such bad
behaviour. If some volunteer is helping your kid cross the road and it gets
hit, he is as liable as any other person (if he fucked up)
So doing
I get the point you're trying to make. I just don't think a volunteer
crosswalk and a car accident is an appropriate analogy for open source
software.
The whole point of open source software is that you as a user get software
for free and if something goes wrong you are free to collaborate to fix
I don't like or appreciate rants.
Rantors are not all the same and so I do not have a universal rule how to treat
them.
In this instance, for me the product rant was not that aggressive that I would
remove the user if I were list owner.
I would remind the user that rants like this are not appre
My kid would know better than to take free candy. And if he did he would
know there is a risk involved for which only he would be responsible.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 3:12 PM Marc wrote:
> >
> > That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software.
> >
> >
>
> So if some store own
Software problems make some people angry but they make me very happy.
Some people are underpaid and work under tremendous pressure leading to
anger. It's understandable.
That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:52 PM Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> O
On 8/23/24 09:19, Marcus Kool wrote:
The user was angry and ranted about named 9.18.x. He did not rant about any
developer or any member of your team. Removing a user from this list is IMHO
not the best way to treat an issue.
Marcus
Yes, but tone matters. It seems that world is now ful
On 8/23/24 11:55, Jim Pazarena wrote:
I agree. Banning them because you disagree with what they say ? You have
shares in facebook ? TikTok ? Federal Govt ?
The value to ordinary users of this mail list has long since
collapsed into a swirl of corporate silly human resources gibberish.
I agree. Banning them because you disagree with what they say ? You have
shares in facebook ? TikTok ? Federal Govt ?
On 2024-08-23 7:19 AM, Marcus Kool wrote:
The user was angry and ranted about named 9.18.x. He did not rant
about any developer or any member of your team. Removing a user fr
The user was angry and ranted about named 9.18.x. He did not rant about any
developer or any member of your team. Removing a user from this list is IMHO
not the best way to treat an issue.
Marcus
On 23/08/2024 13:31, Ondřej Surý wrote:
I can understand your anger
But I don’t. Let me be ab
> I can understand your anger
But I don’t. Let me be absolutely clear. There’s nothing in the world that
would allow you to treat me, my team and the other list members like this. And
there’s nothing in the world that would justify such behavior.
The user in question has been removed from the
Let me add that an actionable bug report usually have all the
information listed here:
https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/blob/main/.gitlab/issue_templates/Bug.md
HTH next time.
Petr Špaček
Internet Systems Consortium
On 23. 08. 24 14:04, Ondřej Surý wrote:
We welcome any bug repor
Am 23.08.2024 um 21:57:47 Uhr schrieb Edwardo Garcia:
> I've just updated 9.18 again, as recent update, and ever since using
> this 9.18 mess the load has been horrendous never ever have I
> experiemnce such a clusterfcsk of a release
I can understand your anger, but the first thing to notice is
We welcome any bug reports, but such language is not welcome here. The mailing
list is not meant for insulting developers.
Ondrej
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