Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Phil Mayers
Our experience has been they break, unexpectedly and in hard to troubleshoot ways. FQDN for the win! Vernon Schryver wrote: > >With "search" lists in /etc/resolv.conf (and the Windows equivalent) >or checking /etc/hosts (and the Windows equivalent) before DNS (while >ignoring the DNS ubber all

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Robert Moskowitz > could work plugged in or isolated. Really now I could force things to > work as a subzone; or at least I think I am nearly to that point in the > upgrades. But there are some human interaction reasons for a very short > fqdn for a class of testing. It has to be typed

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/28/2013 01:31 PM, Vernon Schryver wrote: From: Tony Finch Another reason not to use made-up domain names: CAs are going to stop issuing X.509 certificates for them. (It baffles me why they ever did so.) http://ssl.entrust.net/blog/?p=1831 That's another reason to publish your own DANE re

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/28/2013 01:14 PM, Tony Finch wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Feb 28 12:14:16 klovia named[22332]: validating @0xb421ba30: htt SOA: got insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure I think this suggests that one of the servers for htt doesn't have the signed version. Anothe

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/28/2013 12:57 PM, Vernon Schryver wrote: From: Robert Moskowitz Well one really shouldn't be creating one's own tlds. As the instigator and a co-author of rfc 1918, I beg to differ. Many people considered the notion in RFC 1918 harmful. See RFC 1627. Um, I lived that debate. RFC 15

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Tony Finch > Another reason not to use made-up domain names: CAs are going to stop > issuing X.509 certificates for them. (It baffles me why they ever did so.) > http://ssl.entrust.net/blog/?p=1831 That's another reason to publish your own DANE records including TLSA and SMIMEA. Also c

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Tony Finch
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Feb 28 12:14:16 klovia named[22332]: validating @0xb421ba30: htt SOA: got > insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure I think this suggests that one of the servers for htt doesn't have the signed version. Another reason not to use made-up domain names:

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/28/2013 12:37 PM, Doug Barton wrote: On 02/28/2013 09:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Only for my internal tld does the lookup fail. Are you distributing the trust anchor for htt to all of the servers that are doing validation? No. Of course I did not think of that! I just ASSuMEd a n

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Robert Moskowitz > > Well one really shouldn't be creating one's own tlds. > > As the instigator and a co-author of rfc 1918, I beg to differ. Many people considered the notion in RFC 1918 harmful. See RFC 1627. (My personal view was that standardizing the notion was better because it w

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/28/2013 09:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Only for my internal tld does the lookup fail. Are you distributing the trust anchor for htt to all of the servers that are doing validation? Doug ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listi

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Still not working even with htt. signed. See below. I guess what I need for right now is to turn off DNSSEC checking of a branch in the tree; in this case the tld htt. On 02/27/2013 08:34 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: In message <512e31ca.5030...@htt-consult.com>, Robert Moskowitz writes: For var

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
In message <512e31ca.5030...@htt-consult.com>, Robert Moskowitz writes: For various testing reasons, I have been running a tld here of htt. It has worked of old and continues to work on my new 9.8.2 Centos servers. Problem came up from a namecaching server that 'forwards only' to my internal serv

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/27/2013 08:34 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: In message <512e31ca.5030...@htt-consult.com>, Robert Moskowitz writes: For various testing reasons, I have been running a tld here of htt. It has worked of old and continues to work on my new 9.8.2 Centos servers. Problem came up from a namecaching s

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <512e31ca.5030...@htt-consult.com>, Robert Moskowitz writes: > For various testing reasons, I have been running a tld here of htt. It > has worked of old and continues to work on my new 9.8.2 Centos servers. > Problem came up from a namecaching server that 'forwards only' to my > in

Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
For various testing reasons, I have been running a tld here of htt. It has worked of old and continues to work on my new 9.8.2 Centos servers. Problem came up from a namecaching server that 'forwards only' to my internal server. It cannot resolve any hosts in this tld and on the server forwar