RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-05 Thread Chris Thompson
On May 5 2010, Lightner, Jeff wrote: 8:30 EDT 05/05/2010 and the world hasn't ended here yet. The switchover of j.root-servers.net to "DURZ" is scheduled for 17:00-19:00 UTC (see http://www.root-dnssec.org/ - or just try "dig dnskey . @j.root-servers.net"). We aren't there yet ... We can cel

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-05 Thread Alan Clegg
On 5/5/2010 1:32 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: > 8:30 EDT 05/05/2010 and the world hasn't ended here yet. > > We can celebrate Cinco de Mayo in peace. If only I didn't detest > tequila. > > Side note: I've actually been to Puebla Mexico which is where the > battle that Cinco de Mayo commemorates to

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-05 Thread Lightner, Jeff
rom: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Laws, Peter C. Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:09 PM To: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 > It may be the person that su

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-04 Thread Laws, Peter C.
> It may be the person that suggested setting it was under the > misapprehension that the two values would be the same but the quote from > the Java testing tool made it clear that is NOT the case. I think this is it exactly. But someone in the thread seemed pretty certain that we needed to set

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-04 Thread Lightner, Jeff
rk Andrews Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:01 AM To: Laws, Peter C. Cc: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 In message <789398ea51916246a8016370ebc0231f0f3...@it-rome.sooner.net.ou.edu>, "Laws, Peter C." writes: > Yes, I get all that. But e

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <789398ea51916246a8016370ebc0231f0f3...@it-rome.sooner.net.ou.edu>, "Laws, Peter C." writes: > Yes, I get all that. But earlier in the thread, I noted that: > > "Mine are all saying "x.x.x.x sent EDNS buffer size 4096" when I run the > dns-oarc.net test, which I assume is the defau

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Laws, Peter C.
t: Monday, May 03, 2010 20:19 To: Laws, Peter C. Cc: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 In message <4bdf4b79.4050...@ou.edu>, Peter Laws writes: > On 05/03/10 16:19, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > The test is a rough guide to the maximum packe

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4bdf4b79.4050...@ou.edu>, Peter Laws writes: > On 05/03/10 16:19, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > The test is a rough guide to the maximum packet size supported by the path. > > So what would be the point of using edns-udp-size to something even > smaller? None I can see ... > > What am

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Laws
On 05/03/10 16:19, Mark Andrews wrote: The test is a rough guide to the maximum packet size supported by the path. So what would be the point of using edns-udp-size to something even smaller? None I can see ... What am I missing? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Op

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4bdf39f7.1060...@ou.edu>, Peter Laws writes: > On 05/03/10 15:55, Lightner, Jeff wrote: > > > > Also one of the links I sent earlier had a similar comment about less > > than 300 bytes difference not being a problem. I had missed that. > > > > 4096 - 3843 = 153 > > It seems if I'd p

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Laws
On 05/03/10 15:55, Lightner, Jeff wrote: Also one of the links I sent earlier had a similar comment about less than 300 bytes difference not being a problem. I had missed that. 4096 - 3843 = 153 It seems if I'd paid attention I'd not have posted my follow up questions. It's not on the dns-o

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Lightner, Jeff
age- From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Peter Laws Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:29 PM To: Kalman Feher Cc: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 On 05/03/10

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Laws
On 05/03/10 14:56, Kalman Feher wrote: You probably should. Your resolver is saying its capable of handling 4096, but apparently your network path may not support that. The changes on the The network path to dns-oarc.net doesn't, but that doesn't really mean anything. To some resolvers, the

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Lightner, Jeff
ghtner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf > Of Alan Clegg > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:23 PM > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 > > On 5/3/2010 4:36 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: > >> It sounds as if he read an ar

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Feher Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:10 PM To: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 On 3/05/10 9:54 PM, "Lightner, Jeff" wrote: > On doing that however, I now see the advertised value is 3839 but the > "at least" value is 3828 on

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Kalman Feher
On 3/05/10 9:54 PM, "Lightner, Jeff" wrote: > On doing that however, I now see the advertised value is 3839 but the > "at least" value is 3828 on one and 3827 on the other as shown below. > Based on that it appears one should NOT set the edns-udp-size as it > doesn't fix the problem. This appe

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Lightner, Jeff
tner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Peter Laws Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:16 PM To: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 On 01/-10/37 13:59, Kalman Feher wrote: > > Second, make sure the tested effective size appears in your named.conf in > the

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Kalman Feher
.org] On Behalf > Of Alan Clegg > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:23 PM > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 > > On 5/3/2010 4:36 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: > >> It sounds as if he read an article saying we have to implem

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Lightner, Jeff
ere other testing I need to do? -Original Message- From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Alan Clegg Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:23 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Laws
On 01/-10/37 13:59, Kalman Feher wrote: Second, make sure the tested effective size appears in your named.conf in the options statement "edns-udp-size" on your resolver. In your case: edns-udp-size 3843; Mine are all saying "x.x.x.x sent EDNS buffer size 4096" when I run the dns-oarc.net

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Alan Clegg
On 5/3/2010 4:36 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: > It sounds as if he read an article saying we have to implement DNSSEC on > our DNS servers or we'll quit working on 5/5? Is that the case? > > Also what is the drop dead date/time if so? 5/5 Midnight UTC? Some > other time? You don't need to do any

RE: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Lightner, Jeff
riginal Message- From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Kalman Feher Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:38 AM To: BIND users Subject: Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5 On 1/05/10 7:10 PM, "

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-03 Thread Kalman Feher
On 1/05/10 7:10 PM, "Server Administrator" wrote: > I tried OARC's DNS Reply Size Test on two of my name servers, both on > the same network, behind the same firewall & router. > > Both came back and reported "DNS reply size limit is at least 3843" > (results below). > > Is 3843 close enough

Re: Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 13:10 -0400, Server Administrator wrote: > I tried OARC's DNS Reply Size Test on two of my name servers, both on > the same network, behind the same firewall & router. > > Both came back and reported "DNS reply size limit is at least 3843" > (results below). > I'd image s

Preparing for upcoming DNSSEC changes on 5/5

2010-05-01 Thread Server Administrator
I tried OARC's DNS Reply Size Test on two of my name servers, both on the same network, behind the same firewall & router. Both came back and reported "DNS reply size limit is at least 3843" (results below). Is 3843 close enough to 4096 to keep me safe next Wednesday (May 5th)? If not, do the re