RE: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-19 Thread Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS
AF AFMC AFRL/RIOS Cc: Bind Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers On Jun 19 2009, Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS wrote: >Should running a rndc freeze and thaw on the slave server also push the data >from the .jnl files directly to the tables as they do on the mast

RE: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-19 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jun 19 2009, Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS wrote: Should running a rndc freeze and thaw on the slave server also push the data from the .jnl files directly to the tables as they do on the master server? For some weird reason, running a rndc freeze and thaw on the slave runs successfu

RE: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-19 Thread Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS
-8258 -Original Message- From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:59 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers I'm trying to learn DD

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Andrews
There really isn't such a thing as a "static" zone. All zones are subject to change. You just have a choice in how you change them. Via UPDATE or via some other mechanism. If a zone was truely static you wouldn't need a serial number in the SOA. You wou

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jun 18, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Joseph S D Yao wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:50:49AM -0700, Chris Buxton wrote: ... Yes. Once a zone is dynamic, you're no longer allowed to edit the zone file directly (unless you make it static again, for example by use of ... For which reason, of course,

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jun 18, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS wrote: Although, I should be able to add static data to a dynamic data zone either with nsupdate or with freezing and thawing the zone, correct? Yes, or with a third-party tool. Freezing and thawing is an ugly solution that

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jun 18, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Joseph S D Yao wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:25:29AM -0700, Gregory Hicks wrote: ... I'll bite! What is the difference between a sub*domain* and a sub*zone*? ... A subdomain can be within the same zone. For as many levels of child or sub-domains as you wa

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:25:29AM -0700, Gregory Hicks wrote: ... > I'll bite! What is the difference between a sub*domain* and a > sub*zone*? ... A subdomain can be within the same zone. For as many levels of child or sub-domains as you want: zone example.edu { ... } zone system.subnet.stude

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:41:04PM -0400, Kevin Darcy wrote: ... > Surely you mean sub*zone* (?) ... Yes, Kevin. Thank you. ... > It's not always possible to arrange one's namespace between static and > dynamic, oftentimes there are other conventions and taxonomies which > dictate that "static

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:44:18PM -0400, Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS wrote: > Although, I should be able to add static data to a dynamic data zone either > with nsupdate or with freezing and thawing the zone, correct? If you're using nsupdate, is it static data? ;-) But, yes. Stati

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Kevin Darcy
Kevin Darcy wrote: All subzones are subdomains. But a subdomain isn't a subzone unless it's delegated from the parent zone. Actually, it is possible to have an undelegated (sub)zone, but not considered a good practice, because then you have to explicitly define that zone on all nameservers th

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Kevin Darcy
All subzones are subdomains. But a subdomain isn't a subzone unless it's delegated from the parent zone. Also, subzones have "zone" definitions in named.conf. Undelegated subdomains do not. - Kevin Gregory Hicks wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:41:04 -0400 From: Kevin Darcy Joseph S D Yao

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Matthew Pounsett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18-Jun-2009, at 14:25, Gregory Hicks wrote: Kevin: I'll bite! What is the difference between a sub*domain* and a sub*zone*? I don't see how you could have the one w/o the other. But that could be because I'm feeling especially slow today.

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Gregory Hicks
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:41:04 -0400 > From: Kevin Darcy > > Joseph S D Yao wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:50:49AM -0700, Chris Buxton wrote: [...] > > For which reason, of course, dynamic data should always be in a > > separate subdomain from static data, which may someday need to be

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Kevin Darcy
Joseph S D Yao wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:50:49AM -0700, Chris Buxton wrote: ... Yes. Once a zone is dynamic, you're no longer allowed to edit the zone file directly (unless you make it static again, for example by use of ... For which reason, of course, dynamic data should

RE: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS
/Rome Research Site/RIOS COMM: 315-330-3952 DSN: 587-3952 FAX: 315-330-8258 -Original Message- From: Joseph S D Yao [mailto:j...@tux.org] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:10 PM To: Chris Buxton Cc: Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS; bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Dynamic DNS and

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:50:49AM -0700, Chris Buxton wrote: ... > Yes. Once a zone is dynamic, you're no longer allowed to edit the zone > file directly (unless you make it static again, for example by use of ... For which reason, of course, dynamic data should always be in a separate subdo

Re: Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS wrote: I’m trying to learn DDNS at break-neck speed over here. I guess I’m a little surprised that there are .jnl files on my slave server. I have no allow-update statements on that server, unless maybe these files are comin

Dynamic DNS and Slave Servers

2009-06-18 Thread Borgia, Joe A CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RIOS
I'm trying to learn DDNS at break-neck speed over here. I guess I'm a little surprised that there are .jnl files on my slave server. I have no allow-update statements on that server, unless maybe these files are coming from zone transfer? Also, is it normal for the master zone tables to turn in